» Insurance
» Sponsors
JekillandHyde.euJardineProducts.comDiamond Bar ChoppersBikeBanditDan Vance RacingRRcycles.comFuel MotoPro PadMotorcycle.com

» Sponsors
Go Back   V-Twin Forum : Harley-Davidson Motorcycle Forums > Technical Discussion Forums > V-Rod Engine Technical Discussion

Please Visit our Site Sponsors Page
Pro Pad

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-16-2004, 11:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
IronButt
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 142
Bruzer
2005 CVO V-Rod 1250cc!

The Custom Vehicle Operations is releasing a 2005 Screamin' Eagle V-Rod with a big bore kit.

I wonder if this means the V-Rod public will get a factory big bore kit as an option for purchase. Has anyone spoken to the dealers? I am interested on how much it will cost and what Harley's word is on this kit. The web site claims 10% increase in torque and horsepower.

2005 CVO V-Rod

Anyone have more information about the engine?
__________________
- - - - - - - - - - - -

- Bruzer

"tempt not a desperate man." -- Willy Shakespeare
Bruzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 07-16-2004, 12:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
Seasoned Rider
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Plano
Posts: 45
sgpatter
The big-bore kit and the new wheels may be great news but the rest of the package is disappointing. Instead of all the chrome doo-dads how about an adjustable inverted cartridge fork front end, a rear suspension with adjustable compression and rebound damping ala the FXDX, Brembo brakes and some more lean angle. Now that would be a performance cruiser.
sgpatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2004, 11:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
World's Fastest V-roder
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: LasVegas Nevada
Posts: 1,912
SuperKaz is on a distinguished road
Relax!It's a Great Start to a Hot Line up!The Factory has Listen and will continue to upgrade things when they feel like it needs it.I'm having some Upgrade done to my V-rod at Kosman Speciaties.Maybe you should give Sandy a Call!
SuperKaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2004, 03:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
IronButt
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 142
Bruzer
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgpatter
Instead of all the chrome doo-dads how about an adjustable inverted cartridge fork front end, a rear suspension with adjustable compression and rebound damping ala the FXDX, Brembo brakes and some more lean angle. Now that would be a performance cruiser.
All the stuff you listed might have a harder sell to most people. What you wrote looks like a cool project for your bike, but may be too specific for the general public. My breaks stop just fine, I am sure Brembo stop quicker, but I have never heard of them or used them before so why would the general public need them?

I think Harley is doing a good job at offering what the general public wants. Not everyone can be KAZ and run with the juice (and other extensive mods). But many want a faster V-Rod. I think the big bore kit from the factory would sell pretty well, not because the V-Rod needs more power, but because a lot of people are always looking to get more cubic inches. The majority of Twin Cam owners that I talk to are looking for more power and most are considering big bore kits for their bikes. The V-Rod owner didn't have that option until this year.

Has anyone heard if the Harley big bore kit is available for seperate sale to V-Rod owners? How does this kit compare to the one aftermarket kit (is it bigger or smaller or the same)?
__________________
- - - - - - - - - - - -

- Bruzer

"tempt not a desperate man." -- Willy Shakespeare
Bruzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2004, 11:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
World's Fastest V-roder
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: LasVegas Nevada
Posts: 1,912
SuperKaz is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruzer
All the stuff you listed might have a harder sell to most people. What you wrote looks like a cool project for your bike, but may be too specific for the general public. My breaks stop just fine, I am sure Brembo stop quicker, but I have never heard of them or used them before so why would the general public need them?

I think Harley is doing a good job at offering what the general public wants. Not everyone can be KAZ and run with the juice (and other extensive mods). But many want a faster V-Rod. I think the big bore kit from the factory would sell pretty well, not because the V-Rod needs more power, but because a lot of people are always looking to get more cubic inches. The majority of Twin Cam owners that I talk to are looking for more power and most are considering big bore kits for their bikes. The V-Rod owner didn't have that option until this year.

Has anyone heard if the Harley big bore kit is available for seperate sale to V-Rod owners? How does this kit compare to the one aftermarket kit (is it bigger or smaller or the same)?
all the Motor Parts will be available as and Upgrade to your current Bike!
SuperKaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2004, 01:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
Smuggler
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Vermont
Posts: 4,383
rickr01 is on a distinguished road
Angry

I still want my pushrod activated air cooled V-Twin, but I fear it will not be long before:

Boom Boom Boom, Out Go The Lights!
rickr01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2004, 10:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
IronButt
 
Cryptoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 1,928
Cryptoboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruzer
All the stuff you listed might have a harder sell to most people. What you wrote looks like a cool project for your bike, but may be too specific for the general public. My breaks stop just fine, I am sure Brembo stop quicker, but I have never heard of them or used them before so why would the general public need them?
I don't disagree with you on this, but have you really never heard of Brembo brakes before?
__________________
No, I will not fix your computer.

GO NOLES!!!!!
Cryptoboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2004, 04:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
Seasoned Rider
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warsaw. Poland
Posts: 85
Sigi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryptoboy
I don't disagree with you on this, but have you really never heard of Brembo brakes before?
Brembo makes great breaks!
BTW, what is the reason that you discuss about brembo brakes? The CVO V-rod does not have brembo brakes.
Sigi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2004, 11:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
IronButt
 
Cryptoboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tempe, AZ
Posts: 1,928
Cryptoboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigi
Brembo makes great breaks!
BTW, what is the reason that you discuss about brembo brakes? The CVO V-rod does not have brembo brakes.
Go read sgpatters post. He was giving his suggestions for what the bike should come with!
__________________
No, I will not fix your computer.

GO NOLES!!!!!
Cryptoboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2004, 08:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
Seasoned Rider
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Plano
Posts: 45
sgpatter
I'm not totally off the mark. Victory today launched a new model with triple-disc Brembos and inverted cartridge fork. Somebody else in the world seems to think those items have a target market. As a matter of fact, it seems to be a cross between what I'd like to see in a V-Rod and what others would like to see in the air-cooled CVOs. Aside from the inverted front fork and Brembos, it has a 6-speed tranny, a 100 ci. motor and a 250 section rear tire.

http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/vi...8-630BB2C5DA48
sgpatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2004, 02:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
Seasoned Rider
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Warsaw. Poland
Posts: 85
Sigi
Very nice bike.
Do you know what is it's HP, acceleration 0-60 mph and max speed?
Sigi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2004, 03:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
Seasoned Rider
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Plano
Posts: 45
sgpatter
I only know what's on that website. From previous reviews I've read, the Freedom engine Victory manufactures is considerably stronger stock than is the Twin-Cam. I would suspect the 100 ci. on this bike is stronger than the Harley 103 but that's no more than a guess. The Victory runs a 9.8:1 CR stock and, at least in theory, the overhead cam design should allow it to produce more power.

On the other hand, I owned a 2000 Victory and it was a piece of crap with exceptionally poor dealer support. I understand Victory has come a long ways in the past few years so they might now be worth a look. They do cost nearly as much as H-Ds but the retained value is generally much worse.

Last edited by sgpatter : 07-23-2004 at 03:14 PM.
sgpatter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2004, 07:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
DJW
Easy does it
 
DJW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: North Greenbush NY
Posts: 10,938
DJW is on a distinguished road
I too, would have hoped for more on a CVO VR. #1 being lean angle and #2 being 6-speed tranny. Frankly I can't believe my 02 will be running beside her 3rd year siblings and there has not been any improvement in the 2 biggest complaints we all had as test pilots! The CVO finally gets rid of the damn uncleanable wheels, but not the standard line? that's got to be the #3 complaint. and what about the dogs' ass? is anybody over there listening at all? I guess not (<echo> not..not...not..)
__________________
How's that 'Hope and Change' workin' out for ya'?
DJW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 11:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
Seasoned Rider
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clovis, New Mexico
Posts: 48
notso4x4
2005 CVO V-Rod 1250cc

I just got back from Sturgis and got to see the new bike and talk to the rep about the updates. Here they are, (1) the rear axle is bigger. the old one was 1 inch then shanked down to 3/4" through the brake caliper. The new one is 1 inch all the way through. (2) The new instrument guages that come with the CVO are great it even comes with at clock function. (3) The CVO had chrome factory rear turn signals, but don't see a part number for them yet. (4) The CVO comes with 1.25" handle bars. I would say that they are working on the updates. Their just not coming as fast as some of us would like it to.
notso4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2
Motorcycle News, Videos and Reviews
Harley Davidson Suzuki GSXR Ducati Forum Kawasaki Forum
V-Rod Forum GSXR Forum Ducati Monster Vulcan Forums
Harley Forum Suzuki SV Honda 600RR Kawasaki ZX Forum
Buell Forum Yamaha R1 Honda 1000RR Kawasaki ZX-10R
KTM Forum Yamaha R6 Honda Fury Forums Triumph Forum
Victory Forums YZF-R6 Forum Honda Goldwing Triumph 675
Can Am Spyder Aprilia Forum Sportbikes Forum BMW S1000RR Forum

(C)2001- V-twinForum.com All Rights Reserved

LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0