Critique this build for me

[Tnford27]

I now have a 95" in a 06 bagger, it has kb flatops, wfolarrys heads stage1, hq 0034 (gear drive), runs ok with 84hp and 95tq, I am concerened about the pistons so the new build.
Heres what I am thinking of this winter:
98" conversion package from hillside.
hq 0039 cams
wfo stageII heads
SE cam conversion kit, poss, need a new oil pump anyways.
New injectors, I'm still running 8 degree.
new tuner, TTS or a sert instead of the PCIII I have now.
I will set comp to 10.1 if need be so will this get the job done, could I go a little different on cams, don't want to go to radical there but your imo is appreciated also, I'm running BUB7's tru duals and that will not change but will this combo get close to 100/100??

[aharp]

Should beat it. Too bad no one likes those ugly 2-1 pipes....

[Indianspringsaz]

The Bubs might hold you back some.

[route66paul]

A cam, compression change(maybe), pipes and maybe a different throttle body will do a lot for that engine. Of course, if you want to stimulate the economy - go to a 124".

[towboattrash34]

95 to a 98 is just not worth the money. With what you are going to spend go bigger

[cthecope]

Originally Posted by Tnford27

I now have a 95" in a 06 bagger, it has kb flatops, wfolarrys heads stage1, hq 0034 (gear drive), runs ok with 84hp and 95tq, I am concerened about the pistons so the new build.
Heres what I am thinking of this winter:
98" conversion package from hillside.
hq 0039 cams
wfo stageII heads
SE cam conversion kit, poss, need a new oil pump anyways.
New injectors, I'm still running 8 degree.
new tuner, TTS or a sert instead of the PCIII I have now.
I will set comp to 10.1 if need be so will this get the job done, could I go a little different on cams, don't want to go to radical there but your imo is appreciated also, I'm running BUB7's tru duals and that will not change but will this combo get close to 100/100??

why not just go 107? i dont think 3 cubic inches would really warrant the money u will spend...jmo...get a bigger crank and go 107 let hillside rework your heads if need be and you will be happy im no gearhead..im just going by what the cost would be...give scott a call and find out what he thinks...he won't steer you wrong..my bike was an 88" and the diff for a new crank welded,plugged and trued..around 1300 if i remember correctly using my stock cyl,so i stayed 107...later i could go 117 with axtell cyl,but that would have meant new cyl,i will put the old crank for sale either here or ebay to recoup some $$$ but if i were you do a significant bump up at least 10 cu inches..just my two cents

[TonyJ]

Originally Posted by towboattrash34

95 to a 98 is just not worth the money. With what you are going to spend go bigger

Couldnt agree more.

[Redrubicon2004]

Why not talk to Larry about the whole setup? I asked him for 100/100 and here are the results.

WFO Stage 2 heads
95" with SE Flat tops 9.8:1
Andrews 37g cams
42mm Mikuni
Cycle Shack pipes

[HDWRENCH]

I agree , 95-98 from where you are starting is not going to add up to much power however it will add up to more money. There are shops that will give you the story about how bad the KB pistons are yada yada. There are penty of guys out there using that piston without any issue what so ever. Had a set in my old evo with 11.5 compression beat the snot out of that motor never hurt the pistons.

Get back with larry he set up the first kit and his stuff has shown to make good power. Ask him what he thinks.

[schmeg]

A little more head work from Larry, set comp. on the upper end for that 0034 I believe 10.0-1 works, and yes a good 2-1 will wake that motor up a lot, and be less expensive to do.

[Mtclassic]

just for giggles and only a couple hundred dollars slap some andrews 37's in and you will be close. Sell your 0034's and dang near break even.

[strokerjlk]

Originally Posted by aharp

Should beat it. Too bad no one likes those ugly 2-1 pipes....

you should get there with the mods you listed without the 98 ci kit.
unless it is just needing a fresh top end stay with the 95 and do the rest of the upgrades.
with just the TTS and a good tune with what you have already have would give you a big jump. no reason that build shouldnt be at 90 + hp and over 100 tq.

[Hillside]

If in fact a piston purchase is required to establish proper compression, without wacking the livin' hell outa' the heads,(hard to get to 10:1 when chamber work is done to blend, when installing larger valves) then a quick bore/hone would probably be in order anyway.
Seems that armed with this information, it is a no-brainer.
Scott

[Tnford27]

I think that I might steer in a different direction then, I thought that the piston change would be welcome to all since all the horry stories of long ago but now it seems not to be the answer, or is it, maybe just a good hone and some new forged slugs instead of a 98" kit, I had some bad luck with the first set of KB's that I purchased, the piston skirts collapsed and I had some heavy knocking due to to much clearence, piston to wall, I put a fatcat on the bike last year and it did gain 2hp but lost tq by 10ft lbs, after all was said and done the heads had some bad machine work from a local indy and thay were trashed and so was the fatcat.
I will talk to Larry since they are his heads and see where we need to go from here, he did however steer me in Scotts direction for the 98" kit if I went that route.

[strokerjlk]

maybe just a good hone and some new forged slugs instead of a 98"

if you are going to do this...new pistons.
then I agree with scott
bore to 98ci if your going to purchase pistons anyway

If in fact a piston purchase is required to establish proper compression, without wacking the livin' hell outa' the heads,(hard to get to 10:1 when chamber work is done to blend, when installing larger valves) then a quick bore/hone would probably be in order anyway.
Seems that armed with this information, it is a no-brainer.
Scott