cam gear problem : V-Twin Forum: Harley Davidson Forums

d1hojo · 06-30-2009, 09:47 PM

I finally got my motor back. 107 with R & R crank. I go to put the cams in and check the gear alignment and with the biggest spacer 150, The cam gear is still 17 thou too far back. WTF I tried my old cam plate and was about the same. I really need some suggestions on how to fix this. I can't believe after all the money I spent on this that something like this would come up. Just my friggin luck I guess

claydbal · 06-30-2009, 09:55 PM

cam gear too far back, or timken spacer not correct----pinion too far out? not saying anything, but you need to identify the problem. if situation two happened to be correct, the pistons will side load.

TXCHOP · 06-30-2009, 10:24 PM

Snap some pics so we can see...Is this a 5 piece crank? Were there any special instructions about fitment?

d1hojo · 06-30-2009, 10:54 PM

My guess would be that the pinion is too far out since it lined up before. The comp is also too far in to get the front sprocket lined up with the clutch. So, how can it be fixed?

d1hojo · 06-30-2009, 11:02 PM

Yes it's the 5 piece crank and it's the same cam support plate and cams. I didn't see the other two posts. I hade the 107 kit done with stage three heads. I need to move everything over about .010 and it would all be good but not sure how. also had the timkin done.

aharp · 07-01-2009, 07:13 AM

Is this to align chain drive sprockets for the cams I assume? For the old spring loaded tensioners?

claydbal · 07-01-2009, 09:56 AM

d1hojo, a thought, have you torqued the sprocket bolt yet? if not, that could be the problem, .010 aint much and may resolve itself when tightening the motor sprocket and loading the timkens.

SLPER · 07-01-2009, 11:17 AM

[quote=claydbal;1629245]d1hojo, a thought, have you torqued the sprocket bolt yet? if not, that could be the problem, .010 aint much and may resolve itself when tightening the motor sprocket and loading the timkens.[/QUOTE

Dennis,
I thought he had said he used the thickest washer he had and still had 0.010 left??
Cheers

DAMADMAN · 07-01-2009, 06:57 PM

Interesting... so tell us about it who did the crank install?? what timken was used??

claydbal · 07-01-2009, 07:03 PM

d1hojo, is that an american pitt bull terrier?

d1hojo · 07-01-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by claydbal

d1hojo, is that an american pitt bull terrier?

That's my baby. She's a red nosed pit, no papers just spoiled rotten

I got a hold of Steve and then he got a hold of reggie at R&R. I guess the R&R cranks are built with longer pinion snouts for gear drive cams

Reggie is cutting some spacers and sending them to me tommarow to get the gears lined up. I'm not real happy about it but he says there will be no problem doing this. I havn't read about this anywhere and it kind of pisses me off. It took 8 weeks to get my motor back and now this.

SLPER · 07-01-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1hojo

That's my baby. She's a red nosed pit, no papers just spoiled rotten

I got a hold of Steve and then he got a hold of reggie at R&R. I guess the R&R cranks are built with longer pinion snouts for gear drive cams

Reggie is cutting some spacers and sending them to me tommarow to get the gears lined up. I'm not real happy about it but he says there will be no problem doing this. I havn't read about this anywhere and it kind of pisses me off. It took 8 weeks to get my motor back and now this.

I believe FlyingCasCan had the same issue with is 5pc.

Cheers

rbabos · 07-01-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1hojo

That's my baby. She's a red nosed pit, no papers just spoiled rotten

I got a hold of Steve and then he got a hold of reggie at R&R. I guess the R&R cranks are built with longer pinion snouts for gear drive cams

Reggie is cutting some spacers and sending them to me tommarow to get the gears lined up. I'm not real happy about it but he says there will be no problem doing this. I havn't read about this anywhere and it kind of pisses me off. It took 8 weeks to get my motor back and now this.

Don't blame you for being pissed.
Ron

claydbal · 07-01-2009, 09:03 PM

no difference in pinion ength for gears, if that was so, thousands of stock cranks would have to be lengthened. cutting spacers? shims to correct too long pinion? say it aint so.

DAMADMAN · 07-01-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1hojo

I guess the R&R cranks are built with longer pinion snouts for gear drive cams

Reggie is cutting some spacers and sending them to me tommarow to get the gears lined up.

so if its too longer what are spacers gonna do for u? Hmm sounds fishy