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07-02-2009, 03:48 PM
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ain't no Geezer Glide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Horsepower Inc for me.
Fits under the stock cover, if you like the sleeper look (I do) and when Scott at Hillside dynoed it there was no difference with /without.
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07-02-2009, 06:11 PM
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Ghost Rider - IronButt
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Stafford, Virginia
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Originally Posted by TXCHOP
Have you ever done a run without and air filter to see if the reading changes?
And yes mine is just based on tuning it on a dyno..2-3 hp loss is too much in my book for something soo simple and cheap.
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07-02-2009, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Washington
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When I used the dorghtey power pacc air filter on my 113 it cost me almost 10 HP on top compared to no air filter. I then went to a gerolomy overflow and was back to the same HP as no filter. Thats why I was asking if anyone had flowed the new open front or the larger elements to see what the flow differences were. I personally don't like the look of the overflow but that is the cheapest 10 HP I have ever bought. This is just my experience on my 113 build
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07-02-2009, 10:59 PM
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#19 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: syracuse ny
Posts: 781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXCHOP
Not always true. Might want to get on a dyno for a few runs to see. On my 98 kit years ago the s/e filter sucked almost 2hp from it. My filter on my 117 has 0HP/TQ loss. Scotts filter is about the same flow wise, but fits under a stock cover and is priced right IMO.
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im with you on this dan. joe tuned my fathers 98 bagger. he could not pull any numbers outta the kandn so we put a zippers in it. and it still was a lil shy.. so whoever says its over kill has not sat and actually watched what a air filter can do to your power.
call up scott at hillside and get your self one of his filters. nuff said.
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07-03-2009, 04:26 PM
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Thread Ender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Troy Ohio
Posts: 1,774
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXCHOP
Have you ever done a run without and air filter to see if the reading changes?
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No, I have not done a run without it. If it were a restriction, the amount of restriction (pressure drop across the filter) would increase with rpm (flow). Might be worth a try just for giggles.
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And yes mine is just based on tuning it on a dyno..2-3 hp loss is too much in my book for something soo simple and cheap.
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What I'm inferring is that the 2-3hp had nothing to do with air filter. During my dyno days it was common to see 2hp differences from pull to pull even when nothing was changed. And that was an engine dyno, so no tire, tranny, belt, etc. variables to come into play.
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07-03-2009, 09:50 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,079
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXCHOP
Have you ever done a run without and air filter to see if the reading changes?
And yes mine is just based on tuning it on a dyno..2-3 hp loss is too much in my book for something soo simple and cheap.
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Have seen he same thing several times with some of the racers I ride with.
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07-04-2009, 06:38 AM
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It's never fast enough...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Perryman, MD
Posts: 461
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Originally Posted by 4XLT
i had a ness big sucker on mine when i went for a tune, it actually choked the motor once it was jetted correctly..
put a big zippers filter on and made more than with no filter at all..
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+1 for the Ness Big Sucker and the Zippers element.
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