Man this thing runs hot

[vindex1963]

I added a fairing mount oil temp gauge to my bike yesterday. I went on a ride and it ran 230-240 but it wasn't a long ride. Today the wife and I went out for a 200 mile ride. Two up, 65-75 mph in 105* and it ran 280-290 and sometimes pegged the 300+ mark. The bike runs great, no ping, no anything just really hot. 42-45 mpg. My sig shows where the bike is at.

I had an 04 Softail Standard that ran 270 until I put a cooler on it. It then ran 230 give or take but nothing close to what the Ultra runs under the same conditions. I know that worked but from what I understand these 96" are even more lean. I'm not swimming in $$ so is it a cooler or tuner? I've looked at the V&H Fuelpak because it's less money than the others. I put a powercommander on the 04 Softie later on and always thought it was overkill for just pipes and an air cleaner.
Loaded question I'm sure but tuner or cooler to bring this beasts temps down.

[hbmc]

http://micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
This may help as your legs are burning at least your mind may be at ease?

[vindex1963]

Originally Posted by hbmc

http://micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
This may help as your legs are burning at least your mind may be at ease?

I use Mobil 1 Syn in everything. I know the oil is good but the long term reliability is my concern. I don't know when the cool down mode kicks in but I do know the wife and I were in the middle of nowhere AZ desert and this thing is running 300+.

[hbmc]

well I think then you may have to worry about filter breakdown from compensating for synthetic break down of by products..

Kidding you are just gonna have to back the buick out and crank up the ac if you don't like the heat... You are not going to do anything for the motor dropping 50 degrees. If you even get that by adding yet another flow distance between the oil and the pump. You know?

[strokerjlk]

TTS MASTERTUNE!
You can tune it RIGHT and have some peace of mind.
You would be a perfect candidate for using the spark vs engine temp table.
quote from Steve Cole.

go to the spark versus engine temperture table and remove a little spark from it at the area of your ping. This way you only reduce the spark at hotter levels and when it cools back down it's right back where it needs to be. This is one of the features that Mastertune allows you to do that theothers do not.

I am going to update my SERT just for this feature!

[vindex1963]

Originally Posted by strokerjlk

TTS MASTERTUNE!
You can tune it RIGHT and have some peace of mind.
You would be a perfect candidate for using the spark vs engine temp table.
quote from Steve Cole.
I am going to update my SERT just for this feature!

As you know ping is no longer an issue. I want to drop the temps. I didn't know it was that hot before I added the temp gauge. I probably shouldn't have done that.

I ask this being 100% serious. I was looking at the slip on oil filter coolers. The guy selling them on e-bay has 100% positive on 9577 sales. That's good feedback. I contacted members that have bought it and they say anywhere from 5-10% drop in temps. They like the heat sink cooler.
If I get this along with the regular cooler I should be able to drop the temps quite a bit.

[bebrewer]

You mentioned the V&H FuelPak as something you were thinking about. I've been using it paired up with V&H slip-on ovals w/duals and think it helps a little to reduce the heat. Also use the Kuryakyn saddle shields to help reduce the amount of heat that gets to my legs and they help a little but not a lot. You might be in the only place hotter than South Texas to ride a motorcycle so your mileage may vary

[ponderopa]

That barge is burnin' more than just tires, LOL. Maybe you should try the slip on and see. If it gives you the 10%, then you max out at 270 with cooler weather coming. You can lay a few bucks aside over the winter for a cooler.

My bike is carbed and I don't know much about the tuner stuff, but there seem to be a lot of posts about bucks dropped with disappointing results. You know from experience that oil coolers work, so...

P.S. Beautiful bike!

[vindex1963]

Originally Posted by bebrewer

You mentioned the V&H FuelPak as something you were thinking about. I've been using it paired up with V&H slip-on ovals w/duals and think it helps a little to reduce the heat. Also use the Kuryakyn saddle shields to help reduce the amount of heat that gets to my legs and they help a little but not a lot. You might be in the only place hotter than South Texas to ride a motorcycle so your mileage may vary

We went on a 200+ mile ride in 115* but I didn't have the temp gauge. I probably would have had a stroke if I did. Luckly it only goes up to 300.
The fuelpak looks like a good option for me because I don't see major mods in my future and I think this bike just needs more fuel from what I've researched.

Originally Posted by ponderopa

That barge is burnin' more than just tires, LOL. Maybe you should try the slip on and see. If it gives you the 10%, then you max out at 270 with cooler weather coming. You can lay a few bucks aside over the winter for a cooler.
My bike is carbed and I don't know much about the tuner stuff, but there seem to be a lot of posts about bucks dropped with disappointing results. You know from experience that oil coolers work, so...

P.S. Beautiful bike!

Thanks it is a looker and not a tire burner. hehe
I agree. The wife said she would buy me a cooler for Christmas and I'm holding her to it. I ordered the slip on heat sink.

[ironheadbuck]

can you take the lowers off it would help a lot as far as cooling maybe

[ViennaHog]

Originally Posted by vindex1963

As you know ping is no longer an issue. I want to drop the temps. I didn't know it was that hot before I added the temp gauge. I probably shouldn't have done that.

I ask this being 100% serious. I was looking at the slip on oil filter coolers. The guy selling them on e-bay has 100% positive on 9577 sales. That's good feedback. I contacted members that have bought it and they say anywhere from 5-10% drop in temps. They like the heat sink cooler.
If I get this along with the regular cooler I should be able to drop the temps quite a bit.

As you already have the adapter for temp sensor you can use it for the oil cooler connection. Buy a Jagg 10 row horizontal cooler, the rubber lines and the clamps. Easy installation, reroute the temp sensor to the oil pan using a 3/8 - 1/8 npt hex reducer. Problem solved for reasonable money.

[jerry34208]

Remove the lowers would be my first step. Then add a Jag 10 row if still looking for more. Then go for tuning if you still are worried, my choice would be a TTS with Steve @ GMR doing the tune. I pick these in this particular order in terms of money spent vs. likelihood of noticeably cooler running temps.

If money were not a concern, I'd do the same three things in the reverse order.

At any rate if you ride in 105* your bike is gonna run 25* hotter than if you ride in 80*. Use the best oil and change it a little more often.

[dynarule]

I too have the V&H fuelpak but i dont have a temp gage but I can tell you this much, My header pipes used to turn red coming out of the heads down past the 02 sensers about 3 or 4 inches when at a stop light and now they dont after the fuelpak install, so that tells me its lowered the temps. Have had Fpak for about 1.5 years now with no problems. Got mine off EBAY $200 new in box.

[arealinvestor]

The bottom line is the bike needs dyno tuning.Like earlier stated your going to have to purchase a good tuning device,preferably the TTS & have the bike dyno tuned.This along with the oil cooler should help bring the temps down considerably.Your bike is running way to lean especailly with the slip-ons you added without properly tuning the bike!!!

[claydbal]

Originally Posted by ViennaHog

As you already have the adapter for temp sensor you can use it for the oil cooler connection. Buy a Jagg 10 row horizontal cooler, the rubber lines and the clamps. Easy installation, reroute the temp sensor to the oil pan using a 3/8 - 1/8 npt hex reducer. Problem solved for reasonable money.

i like the idea, but if you tee off the pressure side and run it through a cooler, wont your pressure drop? im confused. could you give a description for routing, or better yet, a diagram?