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Old 08-11-2009, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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auolite plugs 4164

I don't know who suggested these on this site, but for a variety of circumstance I got a pair. Recently, the dealer installed the HD champion and I noticed a drop in gas mileage that could have been associated with many things. I changed back to the autloite and at least for me and my 2007 flstsc my gas milege is back up to over the 45 mpg. Not advocating them, just reporting my personal experience
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have been running them for years and love em. I never noticed my mileage change but I wouldn't as I always run them.
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I've used Autolites for decades, including in my shovels. Never had an issue with them and they always lasted as long as HD's plugs, at 1/3rd the cost...

It's not like HD has a section in the factory that's pumping out insulators and threaded barrels with electrodes.... Someone's making them under a contract bid, and HD's making a ton of coin on them.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have used Autolite in my Harleys for years and most likely will for years to come!

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Last I knew Federal Mogul made HD plugs. Fedmo makes Champion brand plugs. FWIW, generally use Autolite. Darn good plugs. Put in new Champions today. Will check mileage.
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does anyone know what autolites to use on the 08 touring models//4164 or 4265

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does anyone know what autolites to use on the 08 touring models//4164 or 4265
4164..............
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I don't know who suggested these on this site, but for a variety of circumstance I got a pair. Recently, the dealer installed the HD champion and I noticed a drop in gas mileage that could have been associated with many things. I changed back to the autloite and at least for me and my 2007 flstsc my gas milege is back up to over the 45 mpg. Not advocating them, just reporting my personal experience
I think the gas mileage going up and down has a lot to do with how the stations have their gas pumps calibrated. Had mine vary anywhere from 5 to 10 miles a gallon in a day of riding and the only thing different was where I got gas at!
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I think the gas mileage going up and down has a lot to do with how the stations have their gas pumps calibrated.
It takes more fuel to produce the same amount of power, when Ethanol is used, and although some pumps advertise up to 10% added, various stations across the US have been found to have more.....staggering amounts more.

E10 is supposed to only be 10% Ethanol. The government wasnts to boost it to E15, but car mfger's are asking for more testing. GM is already seeing a trend of 2-3 year old vehicles with failing fuel sending units, due to up'd corrosion levels in the gas tanks, due to more water, attracted by the Ethanol.

There's a simple method to testing your local station's Ethanol amounts:

1.) Get a graduated glass tube with 100ml.

2.) place 10ml of water in the tube.

3.) fill remaining 90 ml with gasoline.

4.) Let stand.

The Ethanol is hygroscopic and will bond (attract) the water. If the gasoline is 10% ethanol, your graduated tube will now read at the 20% line, on the bottom (water heavier then fuel) where it orioginally had 10ml of water. (10% water, bonded with 10% Ethanol = 20ml)

If it's HIGHER, (Over 20ml) you're getting a higher percentage of Ethanol then stated.

This is a crude method, but effective. Official kits are available, but run about $24 a piece.


You can buy the graduated tubes on Ebay. They're not expensive at all. I recommend using a glass tube.
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That too, or a combination of both of the above, What ever it is we the consumer ends up paying!
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I think the gas mileage going up and down has a lot to do with how the stations have their gas pumps calibrated. Had mine vary anywhere from 5 to 10 miles a gallon in a day of riding and the only thing different was where I got gas at!
I understand all that and I think I was the recipient of some E45! , but i filled up today and the mileage was definately better. .... again just reporting my experience. I do not have many engine modifications and my gas mileage would vary a few miles a gallon but never more than 3 or 4 mpg for my first 16... and really that had mostly to do with how I was riding.

I have also learned to stay with Shell, BP and Exxon in this area for best results with my ride and i add a little Lucas as was suggested...maybe not religiously but spiritually,
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When ever I ran Lucas octane booster my mileage suffered big time. My neighbour is sponsered by Lucas, he gave me a case of octane booster. I used two bottles. I don't use it anymore.
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Can't find any "real" gas in NY
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