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Old 04-18-2008, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Choice 103 vs 110

I am trying to figure out which is the real best way to go on a newer bike.
I want power ( for 80mph + freeway cruising with passenger) the 6 speed tranny.
So I am looking at a SE 110 ( most likely a FXDSE or hopefully a 2009 softtail) or purchasing a 96 FXSTC and upgrading to a 103. What is teh reliability of a 103 for the long haul type of riding?

Ideas/ opinions?

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Old 04-19-2008, 12:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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with the stock crank I would suggest the 103 is more reliable than the 110. I would go to the CVO forum and read the posts from those with both engines.
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Old 04-19-2008, 04:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If you want real reliability, buy a one or two year old bike with low miles and have a reputable builder tear it down and build it up the right way. I'd be leary of the newer bikes where HD as relaxed the crank run out. As it turns out, my 05 had excessive run out. Fortunatly I did have the extended warranty.
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If you want real reliability, buy a one or two year old bike with low miles and have a reputable builder tear it down and build it up the right way. I'd be leary of the newer bikes where HD as relaxed the crank run out. As it turns out, my 05 had excessive run out. Fortunatly I did have the extended warranty.


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Old 04-19-2008, 07:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I am trying to figure out which is the real best way to go on a newer bike.
I want power ( for 80mph + freeway cruising with passenger) the 6 speed tranny.
So I am looking at a SE 110 ( most likely a FXDSE or hopefully a 2009 softtail) or purchasing a 96 FXSTC and upgrading to a 103. What is teh reliability of a 103 for the long haul type of riding?

Ideas/ opinions?

Thanks
I've got the 110 in my 08 FLTR and I'm very happy with it. That being said who knows when anything will start giving you trouble...
The reason I went with the 110 is my dealer will cover it under warrenty for 7 yrs.
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Old 04-22-2008, 12:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My salesman told me that their shop wouldn't do the 110 because it was a "warranty killer". What the hell? Harley parts and Harley labour equals no warranty?
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103 is a top end change. To go 110 requires boring the cases... which means total teardown. There has been some problems with cases cracking after being bored simply due to the lack of material left between the cylinders. That said, I went 103 on my 07 Softail. Big Boyz ported my heads, 103 cylinders & flat top pistons, Screaming Eagle 255 cams, Power Commander lll, and Rynehart 2 into 1's. It was like a major kick in tha ass! I am very happy with the performance & how everything seems to be working together. It's tame by some standards, but has excellent roll on throttle responce, and I feel it should be fairly reliable because of mid 9's compression and not that much cam lift. Stock is .485 lift and S.E. 255's are .550 lift. Stock springs are good up to .575 lift. S.E. 255 cams are stock in the factory 110 motor, I believe. This is just my .02 cents worth... but I'm very happy with my 103.
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Diggerpine here; What type of gas mileage do you get? I'm getting a "103" BB Kit installed with the "255" cam on my 07 Road Glide.
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Uhmmmm.....

I don't know. I really need to check. I 've got about 800 miles on it, and back on Mobile 1, so I will do a fill-up & check this week. Check back here next weekend and I'll post my numbers.
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I don't know. I really need to check. I 've got about 800 miles on it, and back on Mobile 1, so I will do a fill-up & check this week. Check back here next weekend and I'll post my numbers.
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I have an 08 sotfail cvo. The 110 is an awesome motor, as far as I am concerned. It has really good bottom and mid range power. The top end seems a touch weak for me, but I think nothing of pushing it to the top from time to time. To date, the only place that I have been beaten on that bike is over 170 kph ( Stupid canadians...I know) (roughly 105-110 mph). The bike pulls super hard right up to there, then moderately to the 120 mph mark. first gear, 50, second gear, 70, third gear, 100, fourth gear,120. Then thats all she wrote. Fifth and sixth are only for show. I race anything I can just to see what I have. I walk away from any of the 600 sport bikes like nothing. The last race I had was a Honda st 1300. We started at 50 mph to about 115. He was way back. Then he ousted me on the top end. I cant see how anyone can complain about that. If all you were concerned about was the performance, then go buy a vmax. For the rest of us that want to have some class while riding and not look like a total dork pornstar with our ankles wrapped around our ears, I think the 110 is a great option. That coupled with the 7 year full warranty, and I think the answer is easy from that point. I love mine!!!
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I have an 08 sotfail cvo. The 110 is an awesome motor, as far as I am concerned. It has really good bottom and mid range power. The top end seems a touch weak for me, but I think nothing of pushing it to the top from time to time. To date, the only place that I have been beaten on that bike is over 170 kph ( Stupid canadians...I know) (roughly 105-110 mph). The bike pulls super hard right up to there, then moderately to the 120 mph mark. first gear, 50, second gear, 70, third gear, 100, fourth gear,120. Then thats all she wrote. Fifth and sixth are only for show. I race anything I can just to see what I have. I walk away from any of the 600 sport bikes like nothing. The last race I had was a Honda st 1300. We started at 50 mph to about 115. He was way back. Then he ousted me on the top end. I cant see how anyone can complain about that. If all you were concerned about was the performance, then go buy a vmax. For the rest of us that want to have some class while riding and not look like a total dork pornstar with our ankles wrapped around our ears, I think the 110 is a great option. That coupled with the 7 year full warranty, and I think the answer is easy from that point. I love mine!!!
Sorry bro but if you are walking away from sport bikes on a stock 110 they are Tards riding them. I have a 103 that will spank the $hit out of a stock 110 and I can't "Walk away" from a 600 sportbike..and an st1300 is 50 pounds lighter and has 118/86 again musta been a TARD riding it, but ha congrats, not trying to take away from your fun but if you get a good rider on the other bikes it will be a different story plan and simple. A Bone stock 600 will run low 12's High 11's if the rider is good, some of the newer one are running high 10's STOCK

Here is a dude with a pipe and a filter running in the 10's on a 600
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The 110ci is a good motor,if you pick the parts correctly.Most people have the stage 1 factory upgrade with the 255 cams.The SE 255 cams quit to early.The stage 1 also is not enough static comp (9.3:1)to post any real hp/Tq numbers.When ordering a new Twin cam one should opt for the factory stage 2 110ci factory upgrade.The stage 2 comes with SE 260 cams and high comp pistons for a 10.5:1 comp.The SE 260 cam again needs to be switched out ,in my opinion, for a better SE cam depending on your riding style!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:00 AM   #15 (permalink)
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claydbal is reading this now saying WTF is this?
hehehe, was riding behind a SE 110 , saw the throttle hand go WFO and heard some loud noise. rolled my throttle a little and waited for the 110 to take off?????? never happened. wasnt very impressive, if i owned a 110, i wouldnt pick any fights with sport bikes------or sportsters! lol
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