Build Your Own SE Stage-1 A/C with K&N Filter

[Gooms]

I have the SE Stage 1 a/c kit with the K&N air filter. The original instruction sheet inside the box shows it as a 29440-99C, but there is also a supplemental instruction sheet indicating the kit is a 29773-02B, and this number is on the product label on the box also. Both instruction sheets indicate July 2004.
The instructions indicate the 29440-99C filters are only clean, not oil type, and the 29773-02B kit has the actual K&N air filter, clean and oil. If I'm not mistaken, the kits from the dealer only have paper elements now, so the diy Ness kits are a better buy.

[petrock]

Originally Posted by Gooms

I have the SE Stage 1 a/c kit with the K&N air filter. The original instruction sheet inside the box shows it as a 29440-99C, but there is also a supplemental instruction sheet indicating the kit is a 29773-02B, and this number is on the product label on the box also. Both instruction sheets indicate July 2004.
The instructions indicate the 29440-99C filters are only clean, not oil type, and the 29773-02B kit has the actual K&N air filter, clean and oil. If I'm not mistaken, the kits from the dealer only have paper elements now, so the diy Ness kits are a better buy.

HD used to sell the SE A/C with a K&N filter. They changed to the paper type they use today a couple years back. Don't know why.

I'm confused on what your asking/stating. The entire purpose of this thread is to show you how to build your own SE A/C with a K&N filter which is a better buy then getting the SE A/C from the dealer, then getting the K&N filter, and the backing plate to match your bike...

So, if I understand you correctly, yes the Do It Yourself kits (like the one listed in this thread) is a better buy then buying it from a dealer.

[T-Rob666]

Originally Posted by petrock

First off, I'm not the one who came up with this idea and it has been posted (reads: buried) in other threads. I just figured I'd post it as its own stand alone thread so others could benefit.

Below is the parts list for the Screamin' Eagle Stage I Kit for EFI Models (part #29773-02B). According to HD's web site it will fit '01-later EFI Softails, (except '05 FLSTFI 15th Anniversary), '02-later EFI Touring and '04-later EFI Dyna models. Does not fit '06 FLHTCUSE models with stock A/C cover. And retails for $139.95 ($108.71 at Zanotti's) not including tax and shipping.

The problem with the kit from HD is that its overpriced and comes with a crappy paper air filter, a gray back plate (that looks like crap on chromed or black engines) and a chrome/polished SE A/C Insert (the little donut that says "Screamin' Eagle" that you stick on the outside of the A/C cover) which also looks like crap on a black A/C cover (IMO).

Anyway, here is the parts list so you can build your own SE Stage-1 A/C (Poor Man's Edition) with a K&N Filter, proper back plate color/style and save yourself a decent amount of $$ in the process. Note, Zanotti's and Fox Performance prices can change and shipping/taxes will vary depending on where you live...

From https://www.zanottimotor.com/shopping/partLookUp.html
Just enter the part number and the quantity.

Part# - Quantity - Price - Total - Description
29478-05A - 1 - $9.66 - $9.66 - Gray Back Plate
29620-99 - 1 - $6.04 - $6.04 - Chrome A/C Insert (optional)
29583-01A - 1 - $0.83 - $0.83 - A/C Gasket
99642-97 - 1 - $5.68 - $5.68 - 243 Blue Loctite
29557-05 - 2 - $8.88 - $17.76 - Breather Plug
11292 - 2 - $1.16 - $2.32 - O-Ring
29447-99A - 3 - $8.13 - $24.39 - A/C Mounting Stud
3938 - 3 - $1.80 - $5.40 - Torx Screw

Total: $72.08

Then go to http://www.fox-performance.com/ and enter the part # HD-0800 for the K&N air filter. Should be $36.43.

Your total should be around $108.51 (not including tax and shipping). This will give you exactly what is in the SE Stage-1 A/C kit with a way better air filter and without the install instructions. The instructions are available in various threads on this forum.

If you have a chrome engine, you can swap the gray back plate (29478-05A) for a chrome variant (29510-05 for $31.36). Bringing your total to $130.21.

If you have a black engine, you can swap the gray back plate (29478-05A) for a wrinkle black variant (29586-06 for $27.24), and swap the Chrome A/C Insert (29620-99) for a black variant (29567-99 for $6.04). Bringing your total to $126.09.

To re-cap:
Poor Man's Stage-1 A/C + K&N filter = $108.51
HD SE Stage-1 A/C + K&N filter = $176.38 ($145.14 from Zanotti's)

Poor Man's Stage-1 A/C + K&N filter + Chrome backplate - Gray backplate = $130.21
HD SE Stage-1 A/C + K&N filter + Chrome backplate = $207.74 ($176.50 from Zanotti's)

Poor Man's Stage-1 A/C + K&N filter + Wrinkle Black backplate - Gray backplate = $126.09
HD SE Stage-1 A/C + K&N filter + Wrinkle Black backplate = $203.62 ($172.38 from Zanotti's)


Note: The Chrome (29620-99) and Black (29567-99) A/C inserts are optional. They're just accent pieces. They serve no functional purpose. If you don't want it, you don't have to get it, saving yourself $6.

Enjoy, you cheap bastards...

Okay, Petrock...found it. Thanks. Now, I'm assuming to do this mod, you have to remap or SERT?

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[petrock]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Gorilla

Okay, Petrock...found it. Thanks. Now, I'm assuming to do this mod, you have to remap or SERT?

A remap is what the SERT does. It can also be used to tune your map to fit your build etc. If you install any high flow air filter system (like the one listed in this thread) and exhaust, it is recommended to install a new map into your ECM that is setup for the components you installed. You can get away with not installing a new map, but the chances of causing engine damage is high and you won't get most out of the performance of your mods. I'd recommend a SERT if you have any plans to do other engine mods in the future. If you have any more questions about the SERT, there are tons of posts about it and even a section of the forum dedicated to it. Good luck...

[powerhaulic]

My poor mans version of a hi-flo A/C goes like this......

Drill 9 1.25 holes in the back plate and install a K&N replacement element.....done

Oh I forgot now go get more beer with the funds you saved

[petrock]

Originally Posted by powerhaulic

My poor mans version of a hi-flo A/C goes like this...... Drill 9 1.25 holes in the back plate and install a K&N replacement element.....done Oh I forgot now go get more beer with the funds you saved

Yeah, and it also sucks in hot air off the hot motor instead of sucking in fresh cool air. Probably wistles a bunch too. Air moving over a holes tends to do that. But if thats what floats your boat, roll with it.

[powerhaulic]

I agree about the hot air, but still better than stock

There are no wistles or noise at all.

Besides it is just to help the performance of the bike till I build the 98" and put a proper A/C on it at that time.

[deucedave]

The foxperformance price on the K&N filter is now $53.50. Thats quite an increase from $36.43 Eastern performance has them for $48.00

[Sponk]

Originally Posted by JamieWG

The SE/AC uses the same K&N HD-0800 filter on the carbed models and the EFI models. Here are the instructions.

Hi!

There is no more link to the installation instructions for the SE-aircleaner kit.

Does anyone have a link to the instructions or can someone mail me a pdf?

Thanks
Sponk

[Bruce00]

Yeah, wish someone would post up those directions again