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Old 06-12-2006, 09:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Poor Milage When Cold/Cool Out

I have a theory.....

Just made a run to Ashville, and had a chance to take a good look at my fuel economy.

What I found is that in the morning, when it was cool, I was getting about 49 mpg. Later in the day when it warmed up I climbed to 55 mpg. This was repeated on the way back.

I have a K&N air filter and SE II Slip-Ons, everything else is stock.

My theory is that the ECM was not updated when the filter and pipes were added. I bought the bike used and do not know how to get in touch with the guy that made all the improvements (long story).

Am I on the right path here?

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Old 06-12-2006, 11:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If the flash was not done, you would know by the popping on decelleration and the bike running hot. A dealer can tell you if it has been flashed.
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Old 06-12-2006, 11:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I might have been as simple as going against the wind and going with it. Even a few MPH difference can make a difference in MPG.
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Old 06-13-2006, 08:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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55mpg, what was your speed? Even 49mpg seems really good.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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There is some popping on decel but only at high rev

The way down was there was no wind, fog actually
Speed was pretty steady at 70mph +/-2

On really cold day, high 20s low 30s, the bike smells like its running rich.

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Old 06-13-2006, 01:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On really cold day, high 20s low 30s, the bike smells like its running rich.

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Smells rich but sounds lean to me.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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fattony, those seem like good mileage numbers for a big twin . What model do you ride?
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Old 06-13-2006, 08:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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41 mpg is the best I've ever gotten.
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Best I've gotten is 52mpg. 206FXDLI
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Old 06-18-2006, 02:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I may be way off here but I will venture a guess. I run a carb bike so I pay no attention to how injection systems work. Cooler air is denser so it contains more O2. Don't the injection systems measure O2 and add fuel accordingly? I thought they would compensate to some degree for elevation changes as well as air density changes?

I can get over 50 mpg if I am reasonable with the throttle.
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I may be way off here but I will venture a guess. I run a carb bike so I pay no attention to how injection systems work. Cooler air is denser so it contains more O2. Don't the injection systems measure O2 and add fuel accordingly? I thought they would compensate to some degree for elevation changes as well as air density changes?

I can get over 50 mpg if I am reasonable with the throttle.

Currently, only the 2006 Dyna models have O2 sensors.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I may be way off here but I will venture a guess. I run a carb bike so I pay no attention to how injection systems work. Cooler air is denser so it contains more O2. Don't the injection systems measure O2 and add fuel accordingly? I thought they would compensate to some degree for elevation changes as well as air density changes?

I can get over 50 mpg if I am reasonable with the throttle.
I think it's actually the intake air temperatiure sensor that makes this change.
Cooler = denser = feed more fuel
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have a theory.....

Just made a run to Ashville, and had a chance to take a good look at my fuel economy.

What I found is that in the morning, when it was cool, I was getting about 49 mpg. Later in the day when it warmed up I climbed to 55 mpg. This was repeated on the way back.

I have a K&N air filter and SE II Slip-Ons, everything else is stock.

My theory is that the ECM was not updated when the filter and pipes were added. I bought the bike used and do not know how to get in touch with the guy that made all the improvements (long story).

Am I on the right path here?

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You think 49 mpg is bad? That's more than 99% of Harleys get. Don't worry, be happy.


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Old 06-19-2006, 08:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks Everyone

This is me not worrying, and being happy

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