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Old 10-14-2009, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stripped Cam plate support thread: Help

I am installing the Fueling cam plate with oil pump and Andrews Gear drive cams. Everything was looking good until I wad torquing down the screws. Calls for 90-120 inch pounds. I was at 105 and the number 1 screw stripped.

Anyone have a recommendation for repairing this? The number 1 screw has the alignment dowel on it. I have now read that the two threaded alignment dowel screws are prone to this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-14-2009, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am installing the Fueling cam plate with oil pump and Andrews Gear drive cams. Everything was looking good until I wad torquing down the screws. Calls for 90-120 inch pounds. I was at 105 and the number 1 screw stripped.

Anyone have a recommendation for repairing this? The number 1 screw has the alignment dowel on it. I have now read that the two threaded alignment dowel screws are prone to this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-14-2009, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Stud and 12pt nut it. Works great..


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Old 10-14-2009, 11:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks folks.

I had found the post on the stud installation. I planned to do that, but I just got off the phone with a friend of mine. You can also use a 1/4 inch longer hex head screw (actually the same length that holds the cover on) and there is enough meat in there to torque down. Got her on there and looking good!

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No matter which fastner you use,I would repair the thread with a thread insert.
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Stud and 12pt nut it. Works great..


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I have seen those before and looks like the best solution as a preemptive measure. What length and where Where are you getting them? I have seen them prepackaged as a kit but can't seem remember where. thanks jeff
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COPIED FROM OHIOFLHTCUI...................

The bolt tightening sequence #1 and #2 on the cam plate go through alignment dowels. Only the tip of the bolt bites into threads. The other four bolts are fine in that they have a full stock of threads to grab on to. For #1 and #2 bolts I don’t use the bolts. I sink studs into the casing and fix them permanent with high strength loctite. So many guys have stripped out bolts #1 and #2 on the cam plate. Even S&S says they strip out those bolts in their gear drive cam instructions. So, I sink in double threaded studs (1/4x20; 1/4x28; 1 ½ inches long). The course threads into the casing and the fine thread side for the fancy 12-point nuts.

The studs I buy come from MSC Industrial Supply Company. I ordered off the web. The MSC part number is 65229783. The studs need to be the 1 ½” length to stick out far enough to get a nut on them. The 12-point fine thread nuts I get from Summit Racing. The Summit Racing part number is ARP-300-8330. I use them without washers but some use properly sized flat washers. I’d use some very good flat washers if it’s a stock cam support plate and would not use any if you’re going with a Fueling cam support plate.

Ordering one “unit” of the studs (65229783) gives you a box of ten studs.

I used the 271 high strength loctite to fix the course end of the studs into the cam chest casing and regular old blue (medium) on the 12-poing nuts. I can tell you that after fixing this “design flaw” of H-D I will never again take a cam plate off without switching to studs in the cam plate bolts tightening sequence #1 and #2. It’s too much trouble having to helicoil.

I really clean out the bolt holes with electrical cleaner and blow out with an air compressor. I also get the studs really clean. When red loctite’ing into the casing I use a couple of the nuts scissored together and just snug the stud into the casing and then scissor off the nuts so as not to budge the snugged down stud. Don’t crank down the stud into the casing, it’s held by the red loctite…just sung. You can immediately assembly the cam support plate on the studs and let the whole thing (studs, bolts, nuts) cure over night.
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it appears as if MSC no longer sells this part number. You by chance don't have a couple for sale do you? If so I would take a couple studs and nuts.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No, i dont have any instock right now either..Sorry..

If it helps, try dorman part #675-086..Any auto parts store should be able to order for you.
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http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...PartType=C0142

O'Reillys has 'em for $0.99 ea. Too easy to fix a potentially frustrating afternoon ahead of time.

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