Are you using PREMIUM Fuel?

[ramnj]

Originally Posted by ProFinish

...WTF... you buy a harley and bitch about a buck for a fill-up????

+1

That's what I don't understand!

[bacon225]

Originally Posted by ProFinish

I don't get it... you got a 5.2 gal tank... the difference between regular and super is what... $.20... $.30?

WTF... you buy a harley and bitch about a buck for a fill-up????

My goodness... suck it up cupcake or walk.

If you would go back and read my posts you will see it is not the cost. It is about getting the best gas available. Is that the 91 premium that has been sitting in the tanks for who knows how long. Or is it 87 that gets delivery's every few days. I still don't know the answer but I can assure you its not the pennies per gallon.

[george248]

I think they missed the point of the WHOLE thread...

[trooper113]

Originally Posted by george248

I think they missed the point of the WHOLE thread...

I do believe you're right, George.

[gdkenoyer]

bloody heretic! next thing you'll want to drain the magic HD oil out and put some aftermarket syn in!

on a non-sarcastic note, shouldn't it take a pretty looonng time for gas to degrade? I have put stabilizer into my RV's and lawnmower's gas, but that's for over the long, cold, damp winter....

[nytryder]

I may try some 91 octane in my bike

[Bluzmn59]

Always the highest grade available (usually 93 around here). I try to stick with Chevron, Shell, 76 or Sunoco unless it is an emergency.

[Scrubs]

Whew...after 5 pages of ping this and octane that, I just skipped to the last page for the epilogue.

The one subject within this topic thread that got my attention was the age of the fuel in the station holding tanks.
I'd worry NOT about the degradation of the fuel in those tanks while it's waiting to be pumped by a consumer.
What I do avoid (and worry about), is the tanker truck sitting there with hoses gushing gasoline into those holding tanks churning up all of the garbage resting on the bottom!

Whenever I see this I'll press my luck getting to the next station, even as my red LED is flashing at me, even if it means an extra 20 miles...who knows if he just left the last station and that stuff is just lurking at the top of the tanks to be pumped into my machine.

DIRTY-YUCK-EWWWW!

[Buddy Seat]

Originally Posted by gdkenoyer

on a non-sarcastic note, shouldn't it take a pretty looonng time for gas to degrade? I have put stabilizer into my RV's and lawnmower's gas, but that's for over the long, cold, damp winter....

I too stabilize the fuel im my other toys for winter storage, with good results..

Not the bikes tho, we have good riding most all year, temperate climate, it gets cold in winter but that's just "Leather Weather".. And later in front of the fireplace....Getting thawed out......

How long is gas good ? it seems to me that since the introduction of the 10% ethanol it has a shorter life..
Least that's what I am experiencing...

[EchoPapa]

Octane rating is simply based on the fuel's knock tendency (also called pre-ignition or pressure induced self-ignition).
Knock tendency is based on free radicals present in the fuel prior to ignition.
Octane is not a measure of power or energy but a measure of burn. Higher octane can burn slower but may not.
Octane actually makes the fuel harder to ignite, hence its use in very high performance engines. These engines make their power from the compression, not the octane in the fuel. An engine's power output is a function of the pressure created in the combustion chamber above the piston. The more compression, the higher the pressure at the moment of ignition and the more "push" down on the piston.

A fuel that does not knock will produce the same power as a higher octane.
If your vehicle knocks with a certain octane, go up to the next rating. Other than that, it matters not. Use the lowest octane that does not knock.

Racing Gasoline and Alcohol (Methanol or Ethanol) is different and is really only needed when detonation problems are evident. Their energies are not really different from gas. 10% ethanol in pump gas is fine.

Standard vehicles engines can perform better with higher octane gas, but the ignition timing must be advanced as well. Some engines have a "knock sensor" that helps the computer control the ignition timing, to keep it just before the point of knocking. This kind of system can adjust to the grade of fuel on its own, if there is any benefit to be had. Again, the vehicle must have a knock sensor in this scenario.

Some claim that premium (91) has better detergents in it and is cleaner.
The manufacturer recommends 91 octane in the latest models.

Whatever floats your boat.

[airmann6]

My 08 FLHX does much better all around on higher octane , use it 2/3 of the time in summer .

[RogerDodger]

Run the cheap stuff unless it pings. Then the not so cheap stuff.

[SteveK7m]

Well here is the problem, I owned and operated a Phillips 66 store in a small town but we had a busy highway running besides it. There would be times that I never ordered any premium for 6 months!! Then it was only 2000 gallons at a time, so I am also worried about old gas.... Plus lots of the places my friends and I ride you have only 1 choice, regular. I am in the process of building a low compression 103 to run on 87-89 even though it will only have the power of a nice 95 or less... steve

[TRAYLORTRASH]

Hell, out here I know we have fresh fuel... we were out of gas here in town for about a month (PREMIUM THAT IS) so I was having to degrade my baby with regular... Bout a week ago for Talledega they finally got some premium in town and I fueled up. When I had my Honda, I could care less, but I will use premium in the HOG... NEVER KNOW, if they find out you use regular they may VOID your warranty lol.

[TRAYLORTRASH]

Originally Posted by Bluzmn59

Always the highest grade available (usually 93 around here). I try to stick with Chevron, Shell, 76 or Sunoco unless it is an emergency.

I'm sure ya'll were having the same fuel shortage as us for a while. We were hearing that Atlanta was bone dry for a while. It was pretty bad for a while here.