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Old 12-14-2008, 08:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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helmet issue/got a ???

was at the dealer today and saw a 3/4 helmet that fit real close
to head. was DOT approved (not snell) and fiberglass. it was
those early 70 late 60 retro helmets harley is selling (real
steve mcqueen like). dealer said it's as safe as a carbon
fiber, just heavier.
anyway the helmet i have is an hjc carbon fiber kevlar 3/4 and
snell approved helmet. unfortanely the thing looks
ridiculous on me (some kind of hybrid of a crotch rocket
rider's helmet).
now i know its safe because of the snell approval and carbon fiber, but how much safer is it really? they are both 3/4.
i heard the only benefit to carbon fiber is it's light,not more
durable.
let me know.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Carbon fiber (as used in aircraft) is really strong stuff.........has to be more durable and solid than fiberglass........but I'm no expert.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would think if it's snell approved it's a better helmet. i don't remember the specifics but did a search on it one day and they go through some vigorous testing for that snell rating.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have been riding with a carbonfiberhelmets.com (non DOT approved version) for 3-4 yrs now (super slim and VERY strong)...but, a friend of mine just bought their DOT approved version and it's pretty nice.

Check em out! I have no affiliation with them...they just make really good stuff!
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Helmets are built to a spec (either SNELL or DOT) the difference is that DOT doesn't test, Snell does. After passing their tests to keep your certification they randomly pull your helmet off the production line and make sure it still meets their requirements.

The Snell tests are very extensive. They include abrasion resistance, rod puncture, and a bunch of other stuff that is measured in the transfer of energy to your head. Snell will take a harder impact and stay intack. but that's not what kills you it's the acelleration and decelleration of your brain that fries it. You can only move jello so fast and stop it so quick before it breaks the jell.

Motorcyclist Magazine did an EXTENSIVE study a couple of years ago on accident results. What it found was that folks wearing DOT helmets were coming out of accidents better than the Snell. The article hinted that although the Snell helmets were better able to absorb the impact they were poorer at the acelleration/decelleration due to the stringent build specs.

Ok last thing to think about. A large percentage of deaths from helmet wearing cyclists comes from broken necks. Not from the skull injury. I would think a large part of that comes from the weight of the helmet. Remember, we're acellerating/decellerating. It's much easier to stop a 3 lb object than a 4 lb object given the same speed.

To sum it up. There is no significant protection between the fiberglass and carbon fiber in a real world accident. There is a big difference in weight.

I wear a Full Face Fiberglass cuz I'm cheap. A full face is more likely to break your collar bone in an accident but at least the bone will slow things down and hopefully not break my neck.

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Old 12-17-2008, 08:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have the HJC carbon fiber and love the light weight after a long day of riding. If you take trips where you are on the bike for 8 hours at highway speeds, invest in the carbon fiber. If only doing short trips, fiberglass is fine
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Old 12-17-2008, 10:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The helmet review article by Motorcyclist Magazine (link below) along with an interview by Motorcycle Consumer News with Harry Hurt made me re-think the importance of owning a Snell certified helmet.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Brain buckets keep your mellon intact most of the time.

They are not a save all, or security blanket

In a head on your gonna die any how.

Get what you want. In th elong run, it does not matter.

If your a quality rider, you know how to save your skin.

If not soccer mom and deisel dan already have your number

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To prevent all that ugly stuff from happening, we wear helmets.
Modern, full-face helmets, if we have enough brains to protect, that is.
Hog freakin wash. They will run you down, and nothing you can do will stop them.

I wear a bucket because the crooked polititians & helmet companies stole away our freedom to choose.
After we the people told them via state vote, we want to be free.

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Old 12-18-2008, 10:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SFTL-1 View Post
The helmet review article by Motorcyclist Magazine (link below) along with an interview by Motorcycle Consumer News with Harry Hurt made me re-think the importance of owning a Snell certified helmet.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html
Thanks for posting that link. That is what I was refering to in my reply above. A long read but certainly worth the time.

I've read in a later article that Snell is retinking their testing. A good thing I would think
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Which ever one you go for -just make sure it fits snug. If ya don't - the damm thing will beat ya ta death.
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