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Old 04-13-2012, 03:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Hi all.

Okay as a Catholic, I know there are two Patron Saints for us Motorcyclist.

1) Saint Columbanus
2) (The) Blessed Virgin Mary.

Heres the link....
http://saints.sqpn.com/pst00494.htm



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Old 04-13-2012, 04:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:30 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Try St. Michael the patron saint. The archangel who leads all angels in the defeat of satin. In the wind.

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Sorry, I didn't know satin was evil. Is cotton still ok? j/k

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Only pray to Jesus for the benefit of others.


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Old 04-13-2012, 08:19 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:21 PM   #36 (permalink)
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St Christopher is the patron saint for Travelers. thats the closest I can get!
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:27 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:37 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Now it is not wrong to ask a preacher, priest or such to pray with/for you,


If you pray to a saint .
Okay...lets try this again...

Note the words "for," and "to."

Put in another context: I gave a harley TO my wife FOR her birthday.

Note "TO" refers to a transfer of something (in this case a harley), while FOR refers to reason for the transfer (in this case her birthday). Note the disimilarly.

Now when some prays to a saint...that is blaspemy. But when some one asks a saint to pray FOR them, that is perfectly acceptable. Why?

Well, first who are the saints?

They are the "holy people, or holy ones" of God. They can be preists, or preachers..as you correctly noted...or they can be simply your own friends and family that you may ask to pray FOR you in a certain circumstance...for example if you are sick or have bought a powerball lottery ticket. You likely ask them to pray for you because you believe that, for whatever reason, God will listen to them. Probably because you consider them, in some way, to be a "saint." (notice we never ask the devil to pray for us - or by coincidence-Jane Fonda).

A saint can also be dead, but be in heaven..particularly if they were a martyr for Christ. (See Rev 6:9 ). Because we know that the Saints are in heaven, and bring the prayers of the faithful to Christ, (Rev 8:3) we (some of us) ask the saints to pray FOR us. We SHOULD not pray to them... that would be blasphemy. And we SHOULD not worship them, that would idolotry. We SHOULD not confuse them with being Gods, or God, or even angels, because they are the just people like you and me, "the holy ones of God."

The word saint fromt the latin sanctus, meaning "concecrated, or to be made holy." So any person, living or dead, can be asked to pray FOR you, because they, by means of their santification, are a part of the body of Christ. So just like Pig Pen, on the Charlie Brown Christmas show who takes pride in his dirt, we should take pride in our own "santification," by means of baptism, as being a part of the body of Chirst, and be proud that someone will ask us to pray FOR them (never to them).
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Okay...lets try this again...

Note the words "for," and "to."

Put in another context: I gave a harley TO my wife FOR her birthday.

Note "TO" refers to a transfer of something (in this case a harley), while FOR refers to reason for the transfer (in this case her birthday). Note the disimilarly.

Now when some prays to a saint...that is blaspemy. But when some one asks a saint to pray FOR them, that is perfectly acceptable. Why?

Well, first who are the saints?

They are the "holy people, or holy ones" of God. They can be preists, or preachers..as you correctly noted...or they can be simply your own friends and family that you may ask to pray FOR you in a certain circumstance...for example if you are sick or have bought a powerball lottery ticket. You likely ask them to pray for you because you believe that, for whatever reason, God will listen to them. Probably because you consider them, in some way, to be a "saint." (notice we never ask the devil to pray for us - or by coincidence-Jane Fonda).

A saint can also be dead, but be in heaven..particularly if they were a martyr for Christ. (See Rev 6:9 ). Because we know that the Saints are in heaven, and bring the prayers of the faithful to Christ, (Rev 8:3) we (some of us) ask the saints to pray FOR us. We SHOULD not pray to them... that would be blasphemy. And we SHOULD not worship them, that would idolotry. We SHOULD not confuse them with being Gods, or God, or even angels, because they are the just people like you and me, "the holy ones of God."

The word saint fromt the latin sanctus, meaning "concecrated, or to be made holy." So any person, living or dead, can be asked to pray FOR you, because they, by means of their santification, are a part of the body of Christ. So just like Pig Pen, on the Charlie Brown Christmas show who takes pride in his dirt, we should take pride in our own "santification," by means of baptism, as being a part of the body of Chirst, and be proud that someone will ask us to pray FOR them (never to them).



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I don't know what you should do. All I know is that I pray for the benefit of others. Anything else seems a bit sellfish.

But that's just my beliefs your's may be different.


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I don't know what you should do. All I know is that I pray for the benefit of others. Anything else seems a bit sellfish.

But that's just my beliefs your's may be different.


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Ok, that's a little different. Your prior post sounded like a commandment, not an opinion.

I do pray some for me, but I do try not to cross that line you're talking about.

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Sorry, I didn't know satin was evil. Is cotton still ok? j/k

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satin??? evil???

GREAT!!! now i've got to throw out all of my favorite underwear!
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I'm curious.....what (or who) exactly is a "saint"?
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Saints are ALL People who believe Jesus died and rose for them. They can be people who have already gone to Heaven or people on earth. If you believe Jesus died for You and rose again, YOU are a Saint and are saved.

John 3:16-19
New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

John 14:6
New International Version (NIV)
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

These are Jesus Words, Tough to misunderstand and no one explains it so well!

Pray to God in Jesus name!

John 14:13
New International Version (1984)
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.

Just talk to God and ask in Jesus name!
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