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Old 05-28-2017, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Australian Healthcare

We have heard the term Australian Healthcare bandied about but I bet few people know what it is. This article tells it like it is. It is national Medicare that works.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/re...152946229.html
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dont know why we dont do the same here.Stupid.Then again I guess i do know why...Greed!
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I bet he believes in unicorns, too. He makes it sound hunky dory without covering the most important part....cost.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsi.../#1745588f5e10

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The first lesson is political: Once a government program becomes entrenched, it is extremely difficult to reverse. After people are used to “free,” a $6 co-pay is deemed controversial — even when patients might receive thousands of dollars of treatment at taxpayer expense.

To his credit, Australian health minister Peter Dutton has called for a “national conversation” about allowing greater privatization of their health system. Dutton also explicitly noted that the alternative of raising taxes to keep health care “free” doesn’t solve the problem, but merely hides it: “Either way, individuals end up paying for their healthcare — whether it is directly or indirectly through pay as you go or through higher taxes otherwise... I think most Australian taxpayers understand this.”
They're wanting to go BACK to private health care plans. Wonder why that is?
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All together, kids (again!)- A gov't program is the absolute best approach... if what you're after is maximum waste, inefficiency, overhead, and frustration.

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Trump publicly said Australia has better care than us.
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Trump publicly said Australia has better care than us.
So, now you think Trump is right about something!!??
When did this happen!!
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Trump publicly said Australia has better care than us.
Did he say it was affordable?
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Did he say it was affordable?
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So, now you think Trump is right about something!!??
When did this happen!!
I didn't say he was right. I only stated what he said.
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Did he say it was affordable?
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...th-care-238044
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why hasn't every other country in the world gone broke (except, Greece, Italy, Portugal)?
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why hasn't every other country in the world gone broke (except, Greece, Italy, Portugal)?
We're working hard on it! 20 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt, give it a little more time. We'll get there!
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Corporate welfare tax breaks for the rich,damn good start there,but that's not politically correct. Not in our elected officials book anyways IMO
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why hasn't every other country in the world gone broke (except, Greece, Italy, Portugal)?
The EU can't prop up ALL their members, not indefinitely. They've already lost the three you mention, with more on the edge.

Thanks for helping make the point.

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All together, kids (again!)- A gov't program is the absolute best approach... if what you're after is maximum waste, inefficiency, overhead, and frustration.
Sure ...

which is why Danish people are living as long ... but yet spending almost a third of what the US spends on healthcare per capita ($2,780 pa verus $6,096).

Why does the US spend 3 times more? All the reasons you claim above ... plus the predatory investors and corporations in the money making business.
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"Your sicknesses and suffering are the raw materials for our profit making"
As well as have 50% higher infant mortality rates, 400% more teen pregnancies, 600% more cases of incurable obesity etc etc etc ... the US also only manages to treat 75% of its population, against Denmark's 100%.


It must be wonderful to live in a bubble that allows you to publish total crap without any fact checking whatsoever.

I read your comments on another healthcare thread. Do you guys get paid to post this kind of stupidity by some corporation ... or are you just brainwashed morons repeating what you've been told by people who are?

Although you don't realise it, what you are really doing is insulting the US by claiming it is incapable of good governance and good management ... because other governments and other national healthcare services (not for profit corporations, but national services) prove you wrong time and time again.

I have read up much on the Ozzie system but here's a starter for you ...
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Despite spending almost double what Australia spends, the US is flagging dramatically when it comes to life expectancy and overall wellness. Compared to the UK (14th), Canada (17th) and the US (46th), Australia's health care system (7th) proves to be one of the most efficient in the world,
And you'll love this the most efficient is Hong Kong's which is arguably ... at your level of thinking ... "communist" run now.

Australian Medicare guarantees all citizens (and some overseas visitors) access to a wide range of health services at little to no cost.

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