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Old 06-17-2017, 10:05 AM   #166 (permalink)
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A man turned into a woman could be a sex adventure. She/it would know what a man enjoys besides a grilled steak, a cold beer or an oz.

All its life wanting to be a woman would have no qualms about going up the Hershey highway. Three orfices to please her man.
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Old 06-17-2017, 11:22 AM   #167 (permalink)
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Can you put actually figures to either debate;
I've already shown you figures that government healthcare is going broke in different countries. But evidently that was just was just rightwing propaganda. Even when it was the government saying it.

You go ahead in live in your little nirvana where government can take care of you devoid of any personal responsibility while you ride your polluting Harley with parts purchased from big corporations that continue to pollute.
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Old 06-17-2017, 07:49 PM   #168 (permalink)
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I'm starting to get the impression you have to come on here to brag about your accomplishments because they only exist in your mind. Seems no one else has this problem.
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You keep inserting the slurs and discredits in your posts.
So, I'm a non-conformist. Not all of us are walking stereotypes.

I keep being attacked, so I defend myself.

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I've already shown you figures that government healthcare is going broke in different countries. But evidently that was just was just rightwing propaganda. Even when it was the government saying it.
Neither the figures nor the governments said that, and the way it was being spun by Brietbart etc was how it was being used as propaganda.

The government is the people. It's supposed to performs a service of protecting the people from the negligence and exploitation etc carried out by the corporations etc. In the case of the alternative health systems we are discussing, it uses its power - we use our power through it - to negotiate a fair deal with purely capitalistic interests.

An exercise in collective bargaining, improving standards, and holding them accountable.

My Harley is 21 years old. It's environmental bad karma is well and trully paid off. It's a wonderful system because I don't need to buy anything new for it ... there's always some idiot stripping perfectly good unused items off theirs, crashing them because they should not be riding them, or having a hissy fit because the fashion has change ... so all I have to do is following two steps behind them picking up the road kill.

Environmentally, it is very sound. Right now, it's a better deal than me selling it and buying a new Honda scooter.

And, yes, I spent this afternoon swopping out the wheel bearings and rims on a 40 year old bicycle I did not even pay for. The same one I ride to the bar with the cool young chicks in it. (The joke there is, they are all listening to "my" music as it appears it's finally come back around into fashion. I'm enjoying it as I might not live long enough for it to come back round again!). You don't get DUIs on a bicycle.


So, what's your estimate for the difference in size between a "big government" and a "small government"? How few people do you think the country could be run by? Would Donald need to hire more people than just his daughter?

Back to that "gnat in a hurricane" metaphor ... it goes two way.

Those who think that thru their own efforts *they* are entirely responsible for the wonders of their current life in a developed nation, are just been blown along by the inertia of all that has happened in the past; and those for who the wind changes and wipes them out.

Neither is entirely responsible. We are all subject to huge influences beyond our control.

Just ask folk in Detroit. Was it their fault the corporation left for where it was cheaper and easier to exploit some other workforce? Should they have volunteered to be underpaid, overworked and had their rights stripped from them?

How many of them lost houses?

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Old 06-17-2017, 08:40 PM   #169 (permalink)
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My Harley is 21 years old. It's environmental bad karma is well and trully paid off. It's a wonderful system because I don't need to buy anything new for it ... there's always some idiot stripping perfectly good unused items off theirs, crashing them because they should not be riding them, or having a hissy fit because the fashion has change ... so all I have to do is following two steps behind them picking up the road kill.

Environmentally, it is very sound. Right now, it's a better deal than me selling it and buying a new Honda scooter.

And, yes, I spent this afternoon swopping out the wheel bearings and rims on a 40 year old bicycle I did not even pay for. The same one I ride to the bar with the cool young chicks in it. (The joke there is, they are all listening to "my" music as it appears it's finally come back around into fashion. I'm enjoying it as I might not live long enough for it to come back round again!). You don't get DUIs on a bicycle.
Bullsh*t alert! Somebodies already been presented with the evidence that his bike spews out a lot of greenhouse gasses but he refuses to accept the science.

As far as "you don't get DUI's on a bike"? The California Vehicle Code says otherwise.

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A person riding a bicycle or operating a pedicab upon a highway has all the rights and is subject to all the provisions applicable to the driver of a vehicle by this division, including, but not limited to, provisions concerning driving under the influence of alcoholic beverages or drugs, and by Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000), Section 27400, Division 16.7 (commencing with Section 39000), Division 17 (commencing with Section 40000.1), and Division 18 (commencing with Section 42000), except those provisions which by their very nature can have no application.
(b) (1) A peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, operating a bicycle during the course of his or her duties is exempt from the requirements of subdivision (a), except as those requirements relate to driving under the influence of alcoholic beverages or drugs, if the bicycle is being operated under any of the following circumstances:
(A) In response to an emergency call.
(B) While engaged in rescue operations.
(C) In the immediate pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law.
(2) This subdivision does not relieve a peace officer from the duty to operate a bicycle with due regard for the safety of all persons using the highway.
(Amended by Stats. 2010, Ch. 614, Sec. 3. Effective January 1, 2011.)
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...ionNum=21200.5

Turns out johnny law says you can get a DUI on a bicycle! Facts, who needs 'em!
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:15 PM   #170 (permalink)
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To address just this element, as I am short of time and there is a women young enough to be my daughter dancing in front of me with a tight top and no bra* ... I think the idea that an ordinary, working individual is *totally responsible* for their entire economic and professional destiny, is just about as ridiculous as those types who believe they can merely affirm themselves into prosperity.

In this day and age, I think that the ordinary, working individual is just about as *totally responsible* for their condition as a gnat in a hurricane. You can have the best wings in the gnat world, but if the wind is going that way, do are you.

There are other socio-economic factors, way beyond the individual which - as with the bust - can wipe out entire sectors as efficiently as Stalin did Ukrainian peasants.

And most of those individuals you are talking about were the inhabitants of a housing Holodomor.

We know that there are not just groups but individuals who can make or break entire nations or currencies at will, or by accident.

Could they have taken out the loan in the first place if, on paper, they could not have afford to repay it at the time? Circumstances changed, land and property is a great crap table.

I agree with and accept the "culture differences" comment above. Yes, that is also part of it.

But the idea all victims are to blame for their own misfortunes harks back to the Brahmins of India and their idea of karma ... which was also used politically just to keep other classes down.

As with the "how big is a 'big government' versus a small government'?" ... play your cards on the table and be specific about it.

Put percentages on it for me; 'innocent victims' versus 'deserving victims'.

* (I've just done the math, could be daughter's niece but not quite grand daughter, thank god).
If you are getting a lap dance and typing a post on this forum, then you are an idiot.

If you are really asking me to be "specific" about my idea of big government, then you are not reading my replies. That makes you an asshole.

Either or both ways, I think I am done. You have shown your true colors. You are a young, no nothing twit, who isn't even an American, trying to tell us how we need to run our country. You seem to truly believe that individuals have no responsibility for their own actions, not to mention no accountability. Even still, you think that you, an individual, have all of the answers for the rest of us.

That makes you delusional on top of the other things.

Good luck with your plan to rule the world. Good luck with your life. Sorry you were more concerned about typing shitt here than giving your attention to the female in front of you, but then again, who am I to judge? I have no concerns if you prefer boys.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:15 PM   #171 (permalink)
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A man turned into a woman could be a sex adventure. She/it would know what a man enjoys besides a grilled steak, a cold beer or an oz.

All its life wanting to be a woman would have no qualms about going up the Hershey highway. Three orfices to please her man.

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Old 06-18-2017, 10:21 AM   #172 (permalink)
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If you are getting a lap dance and typing a post on this forum, then you are an idiot ... You are a young, no nothing twit ...
I am 4 years away from voluntary retirement and I was sitting in my local bar which, like The Alibi Room in Shameless, has since been hipster-ified with, of course, Wifi.

I never pay for it. Sex or an internet connection.

So, no takers on the difference in size between "big government" and a "small government"?

Just in case that last bit was not clear, what I said was that those doing well are no more totally responsible for their good fortune than those doing badly are totally responsible for their bad fortune.

Still proud to be pay two to three times over the top for healthcare as other civilised nations?
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I never pay for it. Sex or an internet connection.
Still always relying on others. No wonder you have problems with personal responsibility.
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Old 06-18-2017, 06:52 PM   #174 (permalink)
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They are both included in the price of the alcohol. You buy the alcohol, and the rest is free.

That's always how it worked with dames for me.

Of course, G Man would argue they are not really "free" but, like healthcare services abroad, it sure is a cheaper way to affording them than paying for all three separately to business providers.

Take two kids; one born in a White Suburb in the US, one born in the back streets of Guangzhou, China. Both grow up to do the same job, work the same hours, the American is paid 10 times more it.

Did he miraculously achieve that all by himself, was it his personal responsibility being rewarded? Of course not. He just happened to be gnat with the wind blowing from behind him, the Chinese kids was a gnat with the wind blowing against him.

What is the wind? A long series of historical consequences, and genetic accidents, to get us into the position we are in today.

You can apply that analogy within the nation. It will work, only the difference will be less.

Those "self-made" folks who are full of themselves for their achievements are fooling themselves to think they achieved it all on their own. They are at best, good surfers surfing the efforts and investment of others before them and, at worst, thieves dealing in stolen property and goods. Like the landmass of America.

I don't see the benefit in "taking responsibility" for oneself and paying 3 times over the odds for healthcare. I would see that are not taking best responsibility for oneself.

There's nothing evil in collective bargaining if it gets one the best deal.

Now, if anyone else is upset at my typos, they are going to have to send me a pair of prescription night vision glasses, which will come in very, very handy.

In Europe, if a patient suffers undue delays the have the right to seek free healthcare in other countries.

Meanwhile, it now takes an average of 24 days to schedule a new patient physician appointment in 15 of the largest cities in the U.S. (up from 18.5 days in 2014) but in Boston it's reported to be taking on average 66 days to get an appointment to see a family doctor.

Of course, Europe has a very big government of its own to organisze such things.

America’s waiting times are the worst in the developed world and Americans are the most likely to skip treatment because they can't afford it.

No takers on the different in size between a big government and a small government yet?

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I am 4 years away from voluntary retirement and I was sitting in my local bar which, like The Alibi Room in Shameless, has since been hipster-ified with, of course, Wifi.

I never pay for it. Sex or an internet connection.

So, no takers on the difference in size between "big government" and a "small government"?

Just in case that last bit was not clear, what I said was that those doing well are no more totally responsible for their good fortune than those doing badly are totally responsible for their bad fortune.

Still proud to be pay two to three times over the top for healthcare as other civilised nations?
The only conclusion I can draw from this and your other statements about women and sex is that you are a creepy old dude who doesn't get just how creepy you come across as. Good luck with that!
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I do believe RKR is tripping. Dude quit drinking that shoe polish and you will be able to think straight.
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The only conclusion I can draw from this and your other statements about women and sex is that you are a creepy old dude who doesn't get just how creepy you come across as. Good luck with that!
Naw, he's just a smug liar.

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I am 4 years away from voluntary retirement and I was sitting in my local bar which, like The Alibi Room in Shameless, has since been hipster-ified with, of course, Wifi.

I never pay for it. Sex or an internet connection.

So, no takers on the difference in size between "big government" and a "small government"?

Just in case that last bit was not clear, what I said was that those doing well are no more totally responsible for their good fortune than those doing badly are totally responsible for their bad fortune.

Still proud to be pay two to three times over the top for healthcare as other civilised nations?
Glad to hear your hand doesn't charge you.

I answered your "big government" question. Do your homework and read it.

Yeah, we got it. "You didn't build that".

I have posed dozens of questions to you that you have ignored.

Starting to feel the "Reggie-ness" more and more. Where do they get these bananas?
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I'm pretty sure this 'asshole' is just getting his rocks off spewing nonsense and jonesing on responses.
He would not do well in a face to face.
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