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Old 02-16-2017, 08:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Spy Games sensitive Intelligence?

So how does this work?

We have spies that watch our Government and Chief or we have spies that are suppose to work with our Government and Chief?

The media has this all confusing for me.

To me I'd expect if I was Chief, I'd get a knock on the door by the SI and told about what was found even if it was about people I chose for my cabinet.

To me if I was Chief the last thing I'd expect is finding out something about my cabinet from the media that my SI was suppose to told me.

It's not easy to see the truth because I'm hearing spew from all butts of the media.
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Old 02-16-2017, 11:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So how does this work?



The media has this all confusing for me.
Ya, the media would have us think that they know everything, and that every one of their sources is a high up official and well vetted.



If you work for CIA or any intelligence gathering agency and get caught withholding requested info from the president, you're done.

Do they tell him everything? Nope. But if he asks about something specific, you can bet he gets to see everything they have on the subject at hand. That doesn't mean that the info is reliable or the conclusions valid. And he might need to ask many different agencies to actually see everything on a subject. But he sees it. Does CIA investigate US citizens? Every damn day, 24-7-365. All they need do is cooperate with an internal investigative agency. FBI being the one you all know about. But there are dozens of others.

Once the administration has it's people in place, several levels deep, I think there will be a house cleaning the likes of which young people have never dreamed could happen.
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That be something to see on the house cleaning.

I really don't know if what Flynn did is wrong, not that I don't care but because of all the side stories on it.

If he was asked by Pence and actually lied, then yea I understand you can't trust. To me thats what is more important than BS'ing with Russia. But Again not confident on this story, will need to wait for it all to come out and I'm sure that will be a year or two if they are going Hillary speed!
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Ya, the media would have us think that they know everything, and that every one of their sources is a high up official and well vetted.



If you work for CIA or any intelligence gathering agency and get caught withholding requested info from the president, you're done.

Do they tell him everything? Nope. But if he asks about something specific, you can bet he gets to see everything they have on the subject at hand. That doesn't mean that the info is reliable or the conclusions valid. And he might need to ask many different agencies to actually see everything on a subject. But he sees it. Does CIA investigate US citizens? Every damn day, 24-7-365. All they need do is cooperate with an internal investigative agency. FBI being the one you all know about. But there are dozens of others.

Once the administration has it's people in place, several levels deep, I think there will be a house cleaning the likes of which young people have never dreamed could happen.
I sure hope you're right, about the house cleaning.

I sometimes wonder about Trump's reactions to the inertia. BS, and back-biting of politicians and bureaucrats; about haw it appears to him from his new, insider (sort of) perspective.

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I sure hope you're right, about the house cleaning.

I sometimes wonder about Trump's reactions to the inertia. BS, and back-biting of politicians and bureaucrats; about haw it appears to him from his new, insider (sort of) perspective.

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You obviously missed his press conference today, it was a pleasure.
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So how does this work?

We have spies that watch our Government and Chief or we have spies that are suppose to work with our Government and Chief?

The media has this all confusing for me.

To me I'd expect if I was Chief, I'd get a knock on the door by the SI and told about what was found even if it was about people I chose for my cabinet.

To me if I was Chief the last thing I'd expect is finding out something about my cabinet from the media that my SI was suppose to told me.

It's not easy to see the truth because I'm hearing spew from all butts of the media.
Could you write a slightly less cryptic version of this? Or maybe provide a link to a source?
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's DC--- the place is a leak fest. A lot of leaks are coming out of his own administration so it's just not the Intel community that is throwing him under the bus......after he threw them under it.
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You obviously missed his press conference today, it was a pleasure.
I heard Limbauh say it was upbeat. but that's all I know.

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Old 02-16-2017, 06:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yep, it was great. He put them away with just simple truths. "I'm not going to tell you secret stuff..."

THE part I loved, was told this a long time ago, was that one law will be passed when TWO are removed. May be making some headway.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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He put them away with just simple truths.
NBC reporter Peter Alexander: "You said today that you had the biggest electoral margin since Ronald Reagan 304, 306 electoral votes. In fact, President Obama got 365 in 2008."
Trump: "Well, I'm talking about Republicans."
Alexander: "President Obama 333, George H.W. Bush 426 when he won. So why should Americans trust..."
Trump: "I was given that information, I was just given it. We had a very big margin."
Alexander: "I guess the question is: Why should Americans trust you when you accuse the information they receive as being fake, when you're providing information that is not accurate?"
Trump: "Well, I was given that information. I was, actually, I've seen that information around. But it was a very substantial victory. Do you agree with that?"
Alexander: "You're the president."


"Simple" certainly fits.
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NBC reporter Peter Alexander: "You said today that you had the biggest electoral margin since Ronald Reagan 304, 306 electoral votes. In fact, President Obama got 365 in 2008."
Trump: "Well, I'm talking about Republicans."
Alexander: "President Obama 333, George H.W. Bush 426 when he won. So why should Americans trust..."
Trump: "I was given that information, I was just given it. We had a very big margin."
Alexander: "I guess the question is: Why should Americans trust you when you accuse the information they receive as being fake, when you're providing information that is not accurate?"
Trump: "Well, I was given that information. I was, actually, I've seen that information around. But it was a very substantial victory. Do you agree with that?"
Alexander: "You're the president."


"Simple" certainly fits.
Why yes, yes it does!
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You obviously missed his press conference today, it was a pleasure.
for those of you who missed it (I was fortunate enough to see it on TV) here are the highlights and bullets.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politi...oter_expansion
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I see Harward seen the writing on the wall. He declined the job offering as accessed the administration being too chaotic and said that he was being handed a s**t sandwich..
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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for those of you who missed it (I was fortunate enough to see it on TV) here are the highlights and bullets.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politi...oter_expansion
Glad someone can actually tell the media you suck and it's news.

At this point if Trump passed a law that had to do with curing cancer CNN would flip it and say Trump signed a law that put thousands out of a job.
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