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Old 02-16-2017, 09:54 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I have worked for Mike Flynn in the past. He sort of had his hands on the joystick that controlled my unit.

I have never liked Flynn. He always came across as a self righteous little prick with an agenda that was almost always in conflict with what most others believed to be correct. And he was a bit of a control freak and hot head. Not surprised he didnt last long playing at that level.

I have also worked directly for Petreous and Kellog. Both of those guys are brilliant and very polished. I have coins from both of them on display in my war room at the house. I chucked Flynn's within minutes of him giving it to me.

I would like to see someone like Dr. Condoleezza Rice take a position within Trumps cabinet. Maybe not as the national security adviser. But something of prominence.
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Old 02-16-2017, 11:02 AM   #32 (permalink)
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but Cuba has never been a real threat to us,.
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Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev decided to agree to Cuba's request to place nuclear missiles in Cuba. An agreement was reached during a secret meeting between Khrushchev and Fidel Castro in July 1962 and construction of a number of missile launch facilities started later that summer.
Cuba was a lot worse than the media lets on.

We hear about the big missiles that could reach as far as Chitown. But Castro had tactical weapons that were completely under his control. Had we invaded, he would have been free to use them. 80 FKRs and 12 Lunas would have decimated any US invasion force.

And he had 6 gravity bombs for his Il 28's. So he could threaten the southern US. Shooting down a bomber under the conditions that would have existed after massive losses on the invasion beaches would not have been a sure thing by any means.

Any use by Casto would have triggered a retaliation on our part. And I for one think that the hawks would have carried the day and convinced Kennedy to hit soviet targets around the world, preemptively. You can bet that SAC would have been inbound before the first US boot hit a Cuban beach. So it would have just been a mater of letting them pass their hold points.
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I have coins from both of them on display in my war room at the house.
Guess drinks are on me, the highest I have is from a light colonel who liked the portrait I took of him so much that he had me copy the negative so he would have it when he rotated back stateside. I still have that coin somewhere.
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Hey I never said Obie was perfect, but he didn't suck putin's c#%ck like the current admin. And you guys are giving them a pass, only because it's your party of choice.
Repubs screamed bloody murder when Obie eased sanctions on Cuba, calling them terrible commies, but Cuba has never been a real threat to us, or any other country, russia on the other hand is a major threat to us, and many other countries.
I'm still trying to figure out where the fuk the left comes up with the notion that Trump is pivot man in a room full of Ruskies. I'll leave that to your imagination since there's no accurate basis for this accusation. In fact, your boy Obama and his daughter Hillary are far more 'connected' to the Russian's than I think you'll ever see Trump. There's a HUGE difference between talking or even maybe attending a function with your enemy and getting in neck deep with your enemy, the latter of which Trump has not done.

As to Cuba, that place (in addition to a whole bunch of other places) should be sealed up like a mason jar until they get a clue about how to treat their citizens. You want to talk about sucking some scum bag's crank??? Obama did a great job of this with a host of corrupt assholes across the globe, but you want to pick on the guy you don't like only because a bunch of radical leftists purport that he has.

And, by the way, your 'response' still doesn't satisfy my curiosity about that list. Or is it that you're going to give Obama a pass because he represents the party of your choice?
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:11 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I would like to see someone like Dr. Condoleezza Rice take a position within Trumps cabinet. Maybe not as the national security adviser. But something of prominence.
Funny, I was just telling my wife the same thing last night. I'm trying to figure out why she ain't there already. Then again, Trump is affiliated with the KKK, Nazis and the He Man Woman Haters Club ya know.
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Old 02-16-2017, 06:23 PM   #36 (permalink)
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"I don't recall any of you leftist"

I'm not, I'm a centrist.
See this boutym, I don't have a party of choice, I've voted repub several times in my lifetime. What you wanted me to vote for that moron mutt romney? My wife is still working because Obie saved the auto industry. Mutt wanted to let it die as did a lot of you here. 2015 was the best year the auto industry had in it's entire history. Unemployment would be staggering if it went belly up. What you wanted me to vote for this egotist trump? hell no, the guys immature. Had Kasich got the nomination I would have voted for him. He's the only one whom had decorum, and he did a heck of good job with Ohio. So you & RG Rider can keep trying to box me in, but I'm not stuck with a party like you are.
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Well, looks like Harward isn't interested.

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I have worked for Mike Flynn in the past. He sort of had his hands on the joystick that controlled my unit.

I have never liked Flynn. He always came across as a self righteous little prick with an agenda that was almost always in conflict with what most others believed to be correct. And he was a bit of a control freak and hot head. Not surprised he didnt last long playing at that level.

I have also worked directly for Petreous and Kellog. Both of those guys are brilliant and very polished. I have coins from both of them on display in my war room at the house. I chucked Flynn's within minutes of him giving it to me.

I would like to see someone like Dr. Condoleezza Rice take a position within Trumps cabinet. Maybe not as the national security adviser. But something of prominence.
I've heard similar stories about Flynn. I wasn't MI so I never crossed paths with him but several of my buddies have and they didn't give glowing reports on him. I always thought he looked like he was a dick though.

I have crossed paths with Petraeus. He is scary smart. Very measured. I don't know a thing about Kellog but have read a lot of reviews on him and they are positive.
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"I don't recall any of you leftist"

I'm not, I'm a centrist.
See this boutym, I don't have a party of choice, I've voted repub several times in my lifetime. What you wanted me to vote for that moron mutt romney? My wife is still working because Obie saved the auto industry. Mutt wanted to let it die as did a lot of you here. 2015 was the best year the auto industry had in it's entire history. Unemployment would be staggering if it went belly up. What you wanted me to vote for this egotist trump? hell no, the guys immature. Had Kasich got the nomination I would have voted for him. He's the only one whom had decorum, and he did a heck of good job with Ohio. So you & RG Rider can keep trying to box me in, but I'm not stuck with a party like you are.
So you're saying Obama doesn't deserve a list because Obama 'saved' the auto industry? Yea, Detroit is SO much better these days. Give me a freaking break already. Centrist my ass!
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"Centrist my ass!"

That's the best you can come up with? Lame!

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That's the best you can come up with? Lame!
Why can't you just come up with an Obama list? Simply saying you're a centrist and blathering about voting Republican a few times doesn't take away from the obvious left leaning tenancies and inability to focus on both sides. Someone who is truly a centrist should have no problem with an Obama list, yet here we are with you avoiding just that.
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Why can't you just come up with an Obama list? Simply saying you're a centrist and blathering about voting Republican a few times doesn't take away from the obvious left leaning tenancies and inability to focus on both sides. Someone who is truly a centrist should have no problem with an Obama list, yet here we are with you avoiding just that.
Where's the other 43 lists?
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Over on the Doof's site.
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Why can't you just come up with an Obama list? Simply saying you're a centrist and blathering about voting Republican a few times doesn't take away from the obvious left leaning tenancies and inability to focus on both sides. Someone who is truly a centrist should have no problem with an Obama list, yet here we are with you avoiding just that.
Allot of the guys posting hear are like this, pointed it out numerous times.
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A collection of 91 prominent presidential historians conducting a survey for C-Span just ranked Obama 12th out of the 44 past presidents, right between Wilson and Monroe.

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