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Old 12-08-2012, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are people losing all compassion for human life

Compassion for fellow human has fallen to new lows, are people that disconnected and cold that money is more important than a human life.
The picture bellow was front page news in the spanish version of the Miami Herald, the man on the lower right was pushed by by a another guy into the path of the train, a black male with a long criminal record, and was later arrested, the man pushed was killed by the train, the people on the upper left side of the picture, not only did not move a finger to stop the assailant as he left the station, but did even less to help the fallen man, who was of oriental origin, but what has cause the bigger controversy is the photographer, instead of helping the man he was more concern about getting a photograph of the man about to be killed by the train so he could sell it to the media, than to try to save his life, according to the investigation the train was coming to a stop, the train operators was unable to stop the train short and killed him, the man taking the photograph did absolutely nothing to help except capture his last moments of life, yes he could had ran in the opposite direction and perhaps not be killed since the train was coming to a stop, but he was scared and not thinking or he could have been electrocuted by the rails, but regardless no one lifted a finger to help.
The Miami Herald has removed the story from their web site, I had to photograph the actual paper, people are upset with the paper for purchasing the shot from this scumbag and for publishing it with out regards for the family of the victim.
Is this was is coming to, a life means nothing, more important to sell papers and to be the exclusive publication with that sensational shot, this is disturbing to say the least.

Translation of the caption on the left "Photo of moments before death causes commotion"
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Lack of compassion has not changed, it's just news today.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I read that the photographer actually did run to help while taking pictures as he went but was unable to help. I can't say because I was not there myself. It reminds me of a time when I was 16 and in NY with my gf in the subway and she slipped and fell between the train and the platform as the train started to move. I didn't have time think, just grabbed her and pulled her up and no harm was done. Sometimes this stuff happens so fast that people can't do a thing or just get paralyzed. Like I said, I don't know, not having been there. Capturing the assailant is important but secondary to saving the victims life. That said it would possibly be the easier task.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's not just the big cities. I had some camera footage from my workplace where an elderly lady fell down and hit her head. She was bleeding all over the place and 4 people walked right on by before someone finally stopped.

Most people just don't care about others.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Too many good samaritans being sued. The people brought it on themselves.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Too many good samaritans being sued. The people brought it on themselves.
That's a convenient excuse however, from some basic research it appears to me that ALL 50 states and Wash., D.C. have some form of Good Samaritain legislation on the books. These laws protect a person from being sued for attempting to render aid. While each may have some differences, the basic foundation of those laws is found below:

Four key elements support a successful invocation of the Good Samaritan doctrine: (1) the care rendered was performed as the result of the emergency, (2) the initial emergency or injury was not caused by the person invoking the defense, (3) the emergency care was not given in a grossly negligent or reckless manner, and (4) aid was given with permission whenever possible to obtain it.

I don't know why people don't get involved but if they blame it on the fear of getting sued they are either ignorant or they are not being truthful.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Maybe if he spoke English and knew how to say "help" he would still be breathing. MAYBE?
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That's a convenient excuse however, from some basic research it appears to me that ALL 50 states and Wash., D.C. have some form of Good Samaritain legislation on the books. These laws protect a person from being sued for attempting to render aid. While each may have some differences, the basic foundation of those laws is found below:

Four key elements support a successful invocation of the Good Samaritan doctrine: (1) the care rendered was performed as the result of the emergency, (2) the initial emergency or injury was not caused by the person invoking the defense, (3) the emergency care was not given in a grossly negligent or reckless manner, and (4) aid was given with permission whenever possible to obtain it.

I don't know why people don't get involved but if they blame it on the fear of getting sued they are either ignorant or they are not being truthful.
Not exactly.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=good+samaritan+sued

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec...od-samaritan19

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The California Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a young woman who pulled a co-worker from a crashed vehicle isn't immune from civil liability because the care she rendered wasn't medical.
http://firstaid.about.com/od/medical...qt/goodsam.htm

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Old 12-09-2012, 08:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Compassion for fellow human has fallen to new lows, are people that disconnected and cold that money is more important than a human life.
The picture bellow was front page news in the spanish version of the Miami Herald, the man on the lower right was pushed by by a another guy into the path of the train, a black male with a long criminal record, and was later arrested, the man pushed was killed by the train, the people on the upper left side of the picture, not only did not move a finger to stop the assailant as he left the station, but did even less to help the fallen man, who was of oriental origin, but what has cause the bigger controversy is the photographer, instead of helping the man he was more concern about getting a photograph of the man about to be killed by the train so he could sell it to the media, than to try to save his life, according to the investigation the train was coming to a stop, the train operators was unable to stop the train short and killed him, the man taking the photograph did absolutely nothing to help except capture his last moments of life, yes he could had ran in the opposite direction and perhaps not be killed since the train was coming to a stop, but he was scared and not thinking or he could have been electrocuted by the rails, but regardless no one lifted a finger to help.
The Miami Herald has removed the story from their web site, I had to photograph the actual paper, people are upset with the paper for purchasing the shot from this scumbag and for publishing it with out regards for the family of the victim.
Is this was is coming to, a life means nothing, more important to sell papers and to be the exclusive publication with that sensational shot, this is disturbing to say the least.
Being from the south, I don't know a damned thing about subways and how they work (except that the trains operate on direct current), but yeah, this entire affair was disconcerting to me in that you'd have to think that something could have been done to save the man, and yeah publishing the photo of him being pushed was not good journalism, it was cheap journalism, something you'd expect out of the national enquirer or some other tabloid rag, perhaps the Miami Herald is lowering their journalism standards to that of tabloid status, it was an immoral thing for them to do IMHO....
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perhaps the Miami Herald is lowering their journalism standards to that of tabloid status, it was an immoral thing for them to do IMHO....
They already did that when they endorsed Obama.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Maybe if he spoke English and knew how to say "help" he would still be breathing. MAYBE?
That's a pretty idiotic point of view there, partner....
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They already did that when they endorsed Obama.
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even the photographer admited he did nothing except flash his camara at the train, He is a scum bag
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I had a fire chief attempt to have me arrested one day for entering a neighbor's house that had smoke billowing out of the windows and no one was answering the door. I yelled to my wife to call the fire department (sorry for the heterosexual reference there Mike). The door was unlocked so I went in looking for my neighbor and his dog. Luckily they weren't there so while I was in there I shut off the power and got out.

To this day I don't know what kind of drugs this fire chief was on, but in the end I wasn't arrested. Just goes to show though how fuk'd up some people's thinking can be.

I'd do it again though, fire chief be damned.
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The guy that took the pictures was a freelance photographer. He managed to shoot 49 pictures, but had no time to help. BS! Freakin' Coward!
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