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12-08-2012, 09:45 AM
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not sober all the time
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NW Louisiana
Posts: 2,739
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You are under virtual surveillance
I found an article while surfing the web with my foil hat on. William Binney resigned from the NSA in 2001 claiming our government violates the Constitution by widespread and pervasive surveillance of the American citizens. He says the government has spent billions to collect data off the fiber optic lines inside the United States, not just from those who could be a threat to national security but virtually everyone in the US. He also believes this is getting worse under the Obama administration.
http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-...88381481237582
This is an infringement of our natural rights, the foundation of this nation. It is the nature of government to assume more and more control as time passes. Our Founding Fathers understood this and constructed the Constitution to prevent it. As we become more complacent, the government takes a little more. I imagine they won't get many complaints from those who regularly feed at the government trough.
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12-08-2012, 11:03 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Between Fort Worth and Wichita Falls Texas
Posts: 156
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Remember also they FORCED us to digital broadcasted television so they can now intercept, change and broadcast what ever they want. You don't have a clue anymore what's fact or not.
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12-08-2012, 11:21 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 168
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Welcome to the U.S.S.A.! (United Socialist States of America)
I'm going to miss the U.S.A.
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12-08-2012, 11:26 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Redneck Country
Posts: 6,324
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I've got nothing of interest for them. I lost all my guns and precious metals in a catastrophic boating accident. Ammunition too. I do have some steak knives but that's about it. BTW, I love King Obama and would do anything to serve him. I'll be glad when he gets us aligned with the UN in all legal matters pertaining to our citizenry. I hope I have to pay more taxes soon because I have a little extra money still, even though it's worth less and less, but that's in the best interests of our corporate lords and the leaders of the military indstrial complex I hear. Things couldn't be better. Move along, nothing to see or hear here . . . .
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Last edited by Lefty; 12-08-2012 at 11:29 AM.
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12-08-2012, 11:40 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty
I've got nothing of interest for them. I lost all my guns and precious metals in a catastrophic boating accident. Ammunition too. I do have some steak knives but that's about it. BTW, I love King Obama and would do anything to serve him. I'll be glad when he gets us aligned with the UN in all legal matters pertaining to our citizenry. I hope I have to pay more taxes soon because I have a little extra money still, even though it's worth less and less, but that's in the best interests of our corporate lords and the leaders of the military indstrial complex I hear. Things couldn't be better. Move along, nothing to see or hear here . . . .
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Great way to throw them off!
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12-08-2012, 12:22 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Indiana
Posts: 168
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty
I've got nothing of interest for them. I lost all my guns and precious metals in a catastrophic boating accident. Ammunition too. I do have some steak knives but that's about it. BTW, I love King Obama and would do anything to serve him. I'll be glad when he gets us aligned with the UN in all legal matters pertaining to our citizenry. I hope I have to pay more taxes soon because I have a little extra money still, even though it's worth less and less, but that's in the best interests of our corporate lords and the leaders of the military indstrial complex I hear. Things couldn't be better. Move along, nothing to see or hear here . . . .
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You suppose they'll buy it?
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12-08-2012, 12:30 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Dixie Land
Posts: 401
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Lefty, Im sure you think that we should send a few billion or trillion to the underdeveloped countries to help fight climate change as I do. I plan to donate my motorcycle to some underprivelaged kid from Detroitfrica and ride a bicycle, gotta do my part to fit in. God bless the King. Obammmmaaaaa Obammmmaaaa........
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12-08-2012, 01:12 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Between Fort Worth and Wichita Falls Texas
Posts: 156
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Heck I sold all my guns so I could donate it all to all the lazy people that want free stuff. We should all go broke as fast as we can just to fit in.
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12-08-2012, 01:17 PM
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not sober all the time
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NW Louisiana
Posts: 2,739
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Although I detest the actions of the Obama administration, Republicans also do a good job of stepping around the Constitution also.
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12-08-2012, 02:28 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Illinios
Posts: 512
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Stepping around and tromping on are a bit different
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12-08-2012, 02:30 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Dixie Land
Posts: 401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Salty
Although I detest the actions of the Obama administration, Republicans also do a good job of stepping around the Constitution also.
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Damn, wish I had thought of that. Looks good, you will no longer be under surveilence. Uh oh, I overlooked the part about the O administration. Im sure you meant to say Bush instead of O.
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12-08-2012, 02:38 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gun Free Zone for Law Abiding Citizens
Posts: 11,992
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I'm scared to death. The Internet is leaving a paper trail? Like the paper trail my bank has, my credit card companies, my cable company, my cell phone company, my utilities, etc...
At least I trust the teenagers at Comcast Cable not to read my e-mail..but the government I know has zeroed in on me.
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12-08-2012, 03:15 PM
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not sober all the time
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NW Louisiana
Posts: 2,739
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lonslo
Damn, wish I had thought of that. Looks good, you will no longer be under surveilence. Uh oh, I overlooked the part about the O administration. Im sure you meant to say Bush instead of O. 
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Both and not just them. Congress has passed legislation that would have the Founders a little more than upset.
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Originally Posted by James
I'm scared to death. The Internet is leaving a paper trail? Like the paper trail my bank has, my credit card companies, my cable company, my cell phone company, my utilities, etc...
At least I trust the teenagers at Comcast Cable not to read my e-mail..but the government I know has zeroed in on me.
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I'm not scared. I have no reason to be. But the government has no right to scan and store email without a warrant.
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12-08-2012, 03:28 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gun Free Zone for Law Abiding Citizens
Posts: 11,992
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Salty
I'm not scared. I have no reason to be. But the government has no right to scan and store email without a warrant.
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Does it bother you that your Internet Servive Provider does? Because they do.
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12-08-2012, 03:48 PM
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not sober all the time
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NW Louisiana
Posts: 2,739
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I would be interested in learning more on the subject.
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