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Old 12-06-2012, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Helmet Laws in Obamacare?

Just thinking out loud as I haven't read the 3,000 pages and I'm sure none of you have either. But, with the insurance mandate, I'm wondering if Obamacare will put restrictions on "risky" behavior, one being riding a motorcycle unprotected. Hmmm
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats a really good question. I never thought about like that but it does seem like logical, from the pro OBcare point o view. I hope it isn't the case. Seems like something the IPAB, is that the right acronym? ??, would address, along with all kinds of other for our own good demands by the ruling class of Obots.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Just thinking out loud as I haven't read the 3,000 pages and I'm sure none of you have either. But, with the insurance mandate, I'm wondering if Obamacare will put restrictions on "risky" behavior, one being riding a motorcycle unprotected. Hmmm
Doubtful, but it's an excellent rightwingnut conspiracy theory. It should fit right in and be well adopted by all the rabid rightwingnuts around here. Kind of like the whole birthing thing.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ask Nancy, im sure she read it.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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DJW is reading this now saying WTF is this? DJW is reading this now saying WTF is this?
Doesn't matter whether there is or not...either way you're branded a "wingnut" for even thinking it "out loud." I think I made the same point 4-yrs ago and earned the official "propaganda-in-chief award."

So, quit being such a hater, it's all for your own good either way it goes down.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I suppose one could look at Medicare. Are those on Medicare required to wear one? From what I see, the answer is no...... or people simply don't care...or it's not enforced. Secondly, and maybe I missed something, is Obamacare eliminating companies like Blue Cross? I'm not aware of that. If not, why would it mandate such a law?
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I suppose one could look at Medicare. Are those on Medicare required to wear one? From what I see, the answer is no...... or people simply don't care...or it's not enforced. Secondly, and maybe I missed something, is Obamacare eliminating companies like Blue Cross? I'm not aware of that. If not, why would it mandate such a law?
I think medicare dollars spent on head injuries while not wearing a helmet in a motorcycle accident is somewhat less than a drop in the proverbial bucket. Insurance companies have tried this in the past. In any case the man was just wondering out loud. It could be something to think about. After all this administration wants to look after our every need cradle to grave. They don't believe we are capable of thinking or caring for ourselves.
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Any predjuices against motorcyclists that insurance companies may have has been ruled unconstitutional. They can NOT deny, raise or drop your premium because you ride a bike. Forcing you to wear a helmet falls under this proviso.

The IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) did a study a few years back to prove that UNhelmeted motorcyclists cost the insurance industry an exhorbinate amount of money. Guess what? Their own study found that this was not true. They actually told the insurance companies to back off that tactic.

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Any predjuices against motorcyclists that insurance companies may have has been ruled unconstitutional. They can NOT deny, raise or drop your premium because you ride a bike. Forcing you to wear a helmet falls under this proviso.

The IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) did a study a few years back to prove that UNhelmeted motorcyclists cost the insurance industry an exhorbinate amount of money. Guess what? Their own study found that this was not true. They actually told the insurance companies to back off that tactic.

Stop worrying about O'care. Ride your bike!!!!
All of which you say may be true but libs don't use truth in their equations. They don't think they just feel.

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Facts have never got in the way of the feds trying to run our lives, or the insurance companies trying to make another buck.
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Any predjuices against motorcyclists that insurance companies may have has been ruled unconstitutional. They can NOT deny, raise or drop your premium because you ride a bike. Forcing you to wear a helmet falls under this proviso.

The IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) did a study a few years back to prove that UNhelmeted motorcyclists cost the insurance industry an exhorbinate amount of money. Guess what? Their own study found that this was not true. They actually told the insurance companies to back off that tactic.

Stop worrying about O'care. Ride your bike!!!!
Now there's no need to ruin a perfectly good rightwingnut conspiracy theory, although I'm sure they will find a way to keep it alive regardless.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Doubtful, but it's an excellent rightwingnut conspiracy theory. It should fit right in and be well adopted by all the rabid rightwingnuts around here. Kind of like the whole birthing thing.
As I said, I was thinking out loud (on a forum) and thought it was an interesting subject.

I'm not sure if you were calling me a wingnut, but I am capable of independent thought, unlike those who use terms like "wingnut". Also, I am FOR Obamacare. I'm not for how it went down, but all in all, I am for it.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Actually insurance discrimination for motorcyclists is still a very real problem despite, or because of, the legislation that was passed.

http://www.themotorcyclelawyer.com/1...lated-injuries
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Any predjuices against motorcyclists that insurance companies may have has been ruled unconstitutional. They can NOT deny, raise or drop your premium because you ride a bike. Forcing you to wear a helmet falls under this proviso.

The IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) did a study a few years back to prove that UNhelmeted motorcyclists cost the insurance industry an exhorbinate amount of money. Guess what? Their own study found that this was not true. They actually told the insurance companies to back off that tactic.

Stop worrying about O'care. Ride your bike!!!!
Now your talking, elections are over....Health Care is the law, just like others we have.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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As I said, I was thinking out loud (on a forum) and thought it was an interesting subject.

I'm not sure if you were calling me a wingnut, but I am capable of independent thought, unlike those who use terms like "wingnut". Also, I am FOR Obamacare. I'm not for how it went down, but all in all, I am for it.
Some just have to be the forum jester, they can't help it. Rather than intelligent conversation, spiteful comments rule the day spiced with smilies.

On the subject, I tried reading the law but I just don't have the attention span to get through more than a few pages at a time. They may as well write these things in a foreign language. I would not be surprised if other restrictions and regulations are given birth in the name of this law. From my understanding, the law laid the groundwork for additional rules and regulations not currently in place.
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