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Old 12-02-2012, 04:30 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Awesome!!

Here is a link to where you can mail in the 9% that you shorted America last year:

https://www.pay.gov/paygov/forms/for...ormId=23779454

I'll wait here for you to post your receipt for us all to see. (I'll frame it will be right next to the one that Multi-Billionare Warren Buffet doesn't have.)

You're on the clock boston...

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DJW, in the previous post you quoted Micahel saying a compromise that will include both spending cuts and a raise in taxes was the only way out of this mess. You agreed with him 100 percent. Can we expect to see you post a receipt for all of us to see of you paying more to pay down the federal debt?

You are on the clock DJW.

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Old 12-02-2012, 05:40 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I read his Highness is asking for the HORs to give up their control of the debt ceiling, allowing him to spend at will. If this were to happen, who would be the lemmings then?

Yeahhh, those Dems are all about compromise.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:35 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Went Obama takes all the rich people money, then he will come for your.
Last week they starter the feelers for taking all 401,IRA and retirement account for the good of all. It will be to late for you to cry anyway. You voted for him he told you he was going to take other people stuff and give it away. You just did not think he was talking about your stuff. You see each time he takes from a group, then the next becomes the rich target he has always hated middle class America but you never read his books did you.

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Old 12-02-2012, 06:54 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I note that a lot of you are frustrated with Obama "blaming" Bush for this mess. It reminds me of an old joke which I learned as a kid.

It is the Soviet Union in the early 1950's. Stalin is dying. He hands Khrushchev two letters. He said to Nikita that when things get bad, open the first letter. And when all hope seems to be lost, open the second letter.

So a year later when things started to get hairy, Khrushchev opens the first letter from Stalin and it says "Blame everything on me", which Khrushchev did at the next party congress. So Khrushchev continues in power for a number of years but then things seem to fall apart in the early 1960's. He is about to lose power, so he opens the second letter. It reads "Write two letters".

The point being blaming the previous leader is standard operating procedure for politics. Obama didn't invent it. It's been going on as long as I can remember and long before that. It is part of the dance of politics. Reagan blames Carter. Obama blames Bush, etc.. When and if the Republicans ever do win the presidency again, you can be sure they will blame everything on the Democrats for as long as possible, and then some. This is the way of politics and has always been.

So why all the surprise and outrage about this? It is like you never studied history in high school.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:55 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Not so funny. Once Obamacare is fully operational, that could become a staple of our diets. We may even see the shortage of organ donors disappear- class warfare could extend to harvesting organs from the dregs of society, such as drunk or strung out homeless people passed out on the streets. After all, don't Congressmen and other powerful politicians have a right to life that supercedes those "low lifes" on welfare and/or food stamps that cost the taxpayers too much money? The anticipated death squad concept could be expanded to organ harvesting and other medical "experiments" to be done for our own good, because Big Brother Barry knows better than we silly little people could ever fathom and such "compromises" could lower the cost of government spending on medical care.

The fiscal cliff knows no boundaries. There is no negotiating with idiots who insist on radical taxing and spending our money. Let the country fall off the fiscal cliff and let BO take the blame for causing it to happen under his watch. Let the morons in Congress show their true colors, while they allow such a disgrace to their policies damage America. This will be an event that the media will not be able to hide. For once, we should get out of the way and BO and his henchmen flail about, looking for someone to blame for his and his administration's dismal failure. It's time to get out of the way and let the consequences of his foolishness unfold so that someone better and smarter can step up and truly work on the issues of the day, including placing a halt to the uncontrolled taxing and spending.

Lyndy, sweetheart, you need a jacuzzi and a masseuse. You are STRESSED. This past election must have really pushed your buttons. Have your handsome husband take you out to a restaurant with a good wine selection. I wish I could say to put it on my tab but I pay too much in taxes. I know a lot of conservatives think Barry's goal is the downfall of America but you are the 1st one to claim he wants to turn the old and the sick into food pellets. I think you could use a bike trip to Colorado or Washington and mellow out for a while.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:05 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I note that a lot of you are frustrated with Obama "blaming" Bush for this mess. It reminds me of an old joke which I learned as a kid.

It is the Soviet Union in the early 1950's. Stalin is dying. He hands Khrushchev two letters. He said to Nikita that when things get bad, open the first letter. And when all hope seems to be lost, open the second letter.

So a year later when things started to get hairy, Khrushchev opens the first letter from Stalin and it says "Blame everything on me", which Khrushchev did at the next party congress. So Khrushchev continues in power for a number of years but then things seem to fall apart in the early 1960's. He is about to lose power, so he opens the second letter. It reads "Write two letters".

The point being blaming the previous leader is standard operating procedure for politics. Obama didn't invent it. It's been going on as long as I can remember and long before that. It is part of the dance of politics. Reagan blames Carter. Obama blames Bush, etc.. When and if the Republicans ever do win the presidency again, you can be sure they will blame everything on the Democrats for as long as possible, and then some. This is the way of politics and has always been


So why all the surprise and outrage about this? It is like you never studied history in high school.
Michael, do you ever take those rose colored glasses off at least to wash them?
I'd like to hold our govt to higher truth n transparency standards than what was acceptable to the hardcore Soviet regime during the height of the cold war. W didn't pull the non manning up Barry chit on Slick n Slick didn't pull the wormy Barry chit on Bush 1. I'm not saying these pres's , or previous ones I didn't mention NEVER criticized a predecessor, but NONE have constantly, repeatedly stood on their soapbox and used that lame a$$ed wormy excuse to the extent that your wonderful worm Lord Barry has. I'd be willing to wager coin that Barry hasn't made 5 consecutive speaches since his first campaign without blaming everything from the economy to his own failures at leading, uniting, transparency or his wives bad breath, and were all know it's bad, on W. This is NOT THE NORM. Support him no matter what if ya must but try a little honesty towards who, whom??? you support.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Michael, do you ever take those rose colored glasses off at least to wash them?
I'd like to hold our govt to higher truth n transparency standards than what was acceptable to the hardcore Soviet regime during the height of the cold war. W didn't pull the non manning up Barry chit on Slick n Slick didn't pull the wormy Barry chit on Bush 1. I'm not saying these pres's , or previous ones I didn't mention NEVER criticized a predecessor, but NONE have constantly, repeatedly stood on their soapbox and used that lame a$$ed wormy excuse to the extent that your wonderful worm Lord Barry has. I'd be willing to wager coin that Barry hasn't made 5 consecutive speaches since his first campaign without blaming everything from the economy to his own failures at leading, uniting, transparency or his wives bad breath, and were all know it's bad, on W. This is NOT THE NORM. Support him no matter what if ya must but try a little honesty towards who, whom??? you support.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:17 PM   #53 (permalink)
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it's the 47% that don't pay taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Obama's. He can't blame Bush now. And he wants to bypass congress and raise the debt to anything he wants. Evidently he hasn't heard about the Constitution. The dude want's to be like Morsi, a dictator.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:32 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Uncle Salty is reading this now saying WTF is this?
Obama has the upper hand and he's playing it that way. Ask for stuff you know the republicans won't give up. Then we go over the cliff. Obama gets his taxes on the rich. A few days later, democrats introduce a bill to lower taxes on the low and mid income folks. You think the republicans will say no? Then a bill for revised spending goes through, etc, etc.

They aren't really serious right now or they would be in a room talking with each other rather than talking to the media
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:20 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Not so funny. Once Obamacare is fully operational, that could become a staple of our diets. We may even see the shortage of organ donors disappear- class warfare could extend to harvesting organs from the dregs of society, such as drunk or strung out homeless people passed out on the streets. After all, don't Congressmen and other powerful politicians have a right to life that supercedes those "low lifes" on welfare and/or food stamps that cost the taxpayers too much money? The anticipated death squad concept could be expanded to organ harvesting and other medical "experiments" to be done for our own good, because Big Brother Barry knows better than we silly little people could ever fathom and such "compromises" could lower the cost of government spending on medical care.

The fiscal cliff knows no boundaries. There is no negotiating with idiots who insist on radical taxing and spending our money. Let the country fall off the fiscal cliff and let BO take the blame for causing it to happen under his watch. Let the morons in Congress show their true colors, while they allow such a disgrace to their policies damage America. This will be an event that the media will not be able to hide. For once, we should get out of the way and BO and his henchmen flail about, looking for someone to blame for his and his administration's dismal failure. It's time to get out of the way and let the consequences of his foolishness unfold so that someone better and smarter can step up and truly work on the issues of the day, including placing a halt to the uncontrolled taxing and spending.
Wow. Stock up on charcoal for the grill!

I'm still wondering who this wonderful person is that will step up and make all of those other politicians change.

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Awesome!!

Here is a link to where you can mail in the 9% that you shorted America last year:

I'll wait here for you to post your receipt for us all to see. (I'll frame it will be right next to the one that Multi-Billionare Warren Buffet doesn't have.)

You're on the clock boston...

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So .... going from 18% to 25% is a 9% shortage? Did somebody mention teachers in this thread?

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He'll probably continue his blame game until the end . The end will be messy and his excuses won't matter then.


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Old 12-03-2012, 02:33 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm still waiting for all that transparency we were promised four years ago. Wouldn't you love to see what's going on in those closed meetings?

As far as who takes the heat if we cliff. I gotta say, the dem's are really good at PR. They remain unyielding on their demands, get the opposition on the defense and sell the public on it being their (pubs) fault for not compromising. Brilliant! These guys make the 60's Soviets look like kindergarten kids when it comes to propaganda. The Republicans will get the blame.

We can't give Washington enough money. Given enough time to dream up ways to piss it away, they would take the entire GDP and still drive us to bankruptcy.

I'm in for the Thelma and Louise.
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So .... going from 18% to 25% is a 9% shortage? Did somebody mention teachers in this thread? :
7..9...whatever..still ain't gonna' be no receipt posted...
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I'm still waiting for all that transparency we were promised four years ago. Wouldn't you love to see what's going on in those closed meetings?

As far as who takes the heat if we cliff. I gotta say, the dem's are really good at PR. They remain unyielding on their demands, get the opposition on the defense and sell the public on it being their (pubs) fault for not compromising. Brilliant! These guys make the 60's Soviets look like kindergarten kids when it comes to propaganda. The Republicans will get the blame.

We can't give Washington enough money. Given enough time to dream up ways to piss it away, they would take the entire GDP and still drive us to bankruptcy.

I'm in for the Thelma and Louise.
Transparency is nothing but another buzz word.

Propoganda only works because the public is stupid.

If the rest of the world recognized bankruptcy, we would have been there a long time ago.

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I note that a lot of you are frustrated with Obama "blaming" Bush for this mess. It reminds me of an old joke which I learned as a kid.

It is the Soviet Union in the early 1950's. Stalin is dying. He hands Khrushchev two letters. He said to Nikita that when things get bad, open the first letter. And when all hope seems to be lost, open the second letter.

So a year later when things started to get hairy, Khrushchev opens the first letter from Stalin and it says "Blame everything on me", which Khrushchev did at the next party congress. So Khrushchev continues in power for a number of years but then things seem to fall apart in the early 1960's. He is about to lose power, so he opens the second letter. It reads "Write two letters".

The point being blaming the previous leader is standard operating procedure for politics. Obama didn't invent it. It's been going on as long as I can remember and long before that. It is part of the dance of politics. Reagan blames Carter. Obama blames Bush, etc.. When and if the Republicans ever do win the presidency again, you can be sure they will blame everything on the Democrats for as long as possible, and then some. This is the way of politics and has always been.

So why all the surprise and outrage about this? It is like you never studied history in high school.
You are right, Obama didn't invent it. He just took it to a higher level and turned it into an art form.
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Who here understands the way out of this mess is a compromise that will include both spending cuts and a raise in taxes. And secondly, who supports this idea besides myself?
I just hope the Republicans are smart enough not to once again fall for his crap of spending cuts in exchange for tax increases. This deal has been made too many times already with the spending cuts never materializing and only the tax increases get implemented. Besides, since the election, hasn't Obama said he is not going to compromise on raising taxes and there will be no spending cuts?
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