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11-22-2012, 04:56 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Book Club taxes
Me and my buddies started a book club, we get together once a week and talk about books and listen to music. Over the months we have really expanded and needed a place to have our meetings. We bought a warehouse downtown. We have about 200 people week show up as members. We don't charge membership, but a lot of members give us money for the up keep of the facility which is a lot since we now play live music.
There are some people in our community that think our book clubs is getting too popular and we need to start paying taxes but I don't understand why. We are not a business, we don't sell anything and we do not offer any service, we only entertain ourselves with music and book discussion.
We also do charity work from time to time, we have fundraisers for the homeless etc. Do you think we should pay taxes?
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11-22-2012, 06:26 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: A Country Road in Central NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Markk9
Me and my buddies started a book club, we get together once a week and talk about books and listen to music. Over the months we have really expanded and needed a place to have our meetings. We bought a warehouse downtown. We have about 200 people week show up as members. We don't charge membership, but a lot of members give us money for the up keep of the facility which is a lot since we now play live music.
There are some people in our community that think our book clubs is getting too popular and we need to start paying taxes but I don't understand why. We are not a business, we don't sell anything and we do not offer any service, we only entertain ourselves with music and book discussion.
We also do charity work from time to time, we have fundraisers for the homeless etc. Do you think we should pay taxes?
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You clearly have more than your "fair share." After all, "You didn't build that" - you need to have a more "balanced approach" and "spread the wealth."
Be "patriotic" and...Pay up you hater!
PS. It is not unheard of for a private non-profit to make a Payment in Lieu of Taxes (PILOT) as a recognition that you appreciate the law enforcement, fire service, sanitation...etc that your "book club" enjoys. You may want to consider taking up a small collection among the members and make a donation to say....the fire department, with a note of "thank you - for your service." A red cross blood drive can do wonders for public image too.
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11-22-2012, 06:46 AM
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not sober all the time
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NW Louisiana
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Lawyers created the laws so you would hire one to figure out sh!t like this. I'd say it's time to go see one.
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11-22-2012, 08:04 AM
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Average Dude
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Tuftonboro, NH (near Lake Winnipesaukee)
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It sounds like you are expanding into the realm of taxable status.
You could file for tax exempt under a 501c3 if you truly are a not for profit charitable organization.
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11-22-2012, 08:20 AM
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BigMo
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kingston,Tennessee
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Not for Profit, tax exempt.....f::k em......
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11-22-2012, 09:25 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Your group presumably pays real estate taxes on your warehouse. You probably pay a tax on the utilities you use. What would anyone expect you to pay taxes for if you have no income?
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11-22-2012, 09:52 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Greensboro, NC
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waiting for someone to pick up on it....................
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11-22-2012, 09:58 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Crescent City
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I'm sure that there are books that you could read that explain everything.
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11-22-2012, 10:00 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
Your group presumably pays real estate taxes on your warehouse. You probably pay a tax on the utilities you use. What would anyone expect you to pay taxes for if you have no income?
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No property tax is paid.
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11-22-2012, 10:01 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
Your group presumably pays real estate taxes on your warehouse. You probably pay a tax on the utilities you use. What would anyone expect you to pay taxes for if you have no income?
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So you think churches shouldn't have to pay anything beyond property taxes then?
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11-22-2012, 10:22 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Originally Posted by RGRider
So you think churches shouldn't have to pay anything beyond property taxes then?
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11-22-2012, 10:36 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by Markk9
No property tax is paid.
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Why is that?
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Michael Psycle
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11-22-2012, 10:39 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by RGRider
So you think churches shouldn't have to pay anything beyond property taxes then?
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Who said anything about churches? Why are you injecting that into the topic?
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11-22-2012, 10:44 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Discovered in 1904 by the Germans it's German for whales vagina.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Markk9
Me and my buddies started a book club, we get together once a week and talk about books and listen to music. Over the months we have really expanded and needed a place to have our meetings. We bought a warehouse downtown. We have about 200 people week show up as members. We don't charge membership, but a lot of members give us money for the up keep of the facility which is a lot since we now play live music.
There are some people in our community that think our book clubs is getting too popular and we need to start paying taxes but I don't understand why. We are not a business, we don't sell anything and we do not offer any service, we only entertain ourselves with music and book discussion.
We also do charity work from time to time, we have fundraisers for the homeless etc. Do you think we should pay taxes?
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11-22-2012, 11:06 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
Who said anything about churches? Why are you injecting that into the topic?
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Oh I don't know? Cause maybe that was the OP's premise. 
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