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11-19-2012, 01:09 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by RGRider
Here's your problem: some of us, actually a majority, believe in social mores. You think it's wrong for us to criticize your social choices, we think it's wrong for a grown man, or woman, to expose themselves in public. Especially when children are present and some coverage I've seen of Castro show naked men around children. That's wrong, period. Keep your sh!t covered!
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That is your individual morality regarding personal dress codes which may be followed a majority of the people but it is not the morality that everyone follows. You want your morality to be followed by everyone, everywhere, all the time. San Francisco has been one of the few places in this country that does not follow your personal morality with regard to a dress code and that is not good enough for you. For you a certain code of dress must be followed 100% of the places 100% of the time. I am not going to criticize your morality regarding a dress code as long as it is the personal morality which you follow. But when you insist that everyone, everywhere, all the time must follow only your sense of what is moral dress code, then I disagree with you.
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11-19-2012, 03:27 PM
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Seasoned Rider
Join Date: May 2009
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Right on RGider. The country is getting more screwed up with very passing day.
Morals are going right down the toilet.
There is a time and a place for everything. Walking around in public flaunting your junk is immoral and perverted. Doing it in front of little kids is criminal.
Just sayin
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11-19-2012, 03:33 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
That is your individual morality regarding personal dress codes which may be followed a majority of the people but it is not the morality that everyone follows. You want your morality to be followed by everyone, everywhere, all the time. San Francisco has been one of the few places in this country that does not follow your personal morality with regard to a dress code and that is not good enough for you. For you a certain code of dress must be followed 100% of the places 100% of the time. I am not going to criticize your morality regarding a dress code as long as it is the personal morality which you follow. But when you insist that everyone, everywhere, all the time must follow only your sense of what is moral dress code, then I disagree with you.
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Considering that crap only happens in your area I'd say it's NOT JUST my morality objecting to it. It's the majority of the country's morality that finds it offensive.
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11-19-2012, 04:02 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Redneck Country
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This thread is proof of the fact that Kali has earned the title HDsickness stated as well as the pride some take in its obvious illustrations.
For me, reading some posts on this subject make me firmer in my opposition to the acceptance of all things gay.
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11-19-2012, 04:50 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
That is your individual morality regarding personal dress codes which may be followed a majority of the people but it is not the morality that everyone follows. You want your morality to be followed by everyone, everywhere, all the time. San Francisco has been one of the few places in this country that does not follow your personal morality with regard to a dress code and that is not good enough for you. For you a certain code of dress must be followed 100% of the places 100% of the time. I am not going to criticize your morality regarding a dress code as long as it is the personal morality which you follow. But when you insist that everyone, everywhere, all the time must follow only your sense of what is moral dress code, then I disagree with you.
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Michael my friend; On this subject and others, you cry to high heaven for your "rights" when in fact you advocate for special privileges for yourself . In your advanced age have you forgotten that in ALL social compacts the greater numbers rule over the lesser numbers???? The "tail wagging the dog" is a progressive agenda, nothing more, nothing less.
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11-19-2012, 05:06 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
That is your individual morality regarding personal dress codes which may be followed a majority of the people but it is not the morality that everyone follows. You want your morality to be followed by everyone, everywhere, all the time. San Francisco has been one of the few places in this country that does not follow your personal morality with regard to a dress code and that is not good enough for you. For you a certain code of dress must be followed 100% of the places 100% of the time. I am not going to criticize your morality regarding a dress code as long as it is the personal morality which you follow. But when you insist that everyone, everywhere, all the time must follow only your sense of what is moral dress code, then I disagree with you.
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Once again we have the tolerant lefty only concerned about acceptance of his own set of values at the expense of others. You seem to be doing your dance around the fact that you just don't care than patents should be able to take their kids out, 365 days a year in the town they pay taxes in without worrying about screwballs shaking their chit in public to get their jollies. What about the rights of the parents? Or the rights of normal folk who don't want to see a bunch of pervs covered in rainbow leather and sprinkles shaking their
cackasourus? What about flashers? Flashing is sexual assault of sorts, should that be made legal?
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11-19-2012, 05:17 PM
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let people walk around naked on the streets and pretty soon they will be walking around naked at home.
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11-19-2012, 05:57 PM
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IronButt
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I've been to SF six times. It is a lovely city. I have not observed any abhorent behavior while visiting there. I did see a dude all dressed up like a woman one time but, I've seen a few of those around here.
I do believe that all adults should keep their clothes on while out in public. I don't want to pile on here Michael but I think you're way off base on this issue.
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11-19-2012, 06:18 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Originally Posted by ccraig
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Not gonna click-it!!
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11-19-2012, 06:42 PM
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IronButt
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Originally Posted by RGRider
Not gonna click-it!! 
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I'm not clicking either. I already made that mistake on another thread about SF .....Never Again
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11-19-2012, 07:22 PM
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NRA Life
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
That is your individual morality regarding personal dress codes which may be followed a majority of the people but it is not the morality that everyone follows. You want your morality to be followed by everyone, everywhere, all the time. San Francisco has been one of the few places in this country that does not follow your personal morality with regard to a dress code and that is not good enough for you. For you a certain code of dress must be followed 100% of the places 100% of the time. I am not going to criticize your morality regarding a dress code as long as it is the personal morality which you follow. But when you insist that everyone, everywhere, all the time must follow only your sense of what is moral dress code, then I disagree with you.
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You don't care how offensive your immorality might be to others, especially kids. Many stories about the traumatization little girls go through when some dirtbag pervert exposes himself, just to satisfy his own depravity.
I'm with Lefty, take this sodomy crap somewhere else.
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11-19-2012, 08:12 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by ccraig
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Yet another link to the Folsom Street Fair. Just for you to know, the Folsom Street Fair this year raised $324,000 for local charities. It raises a similar amount each year. There is no local objections to the Folsom Street Fair. Everyone knows what goes on there and only those who are interested attend. It is the third largest public gathering in California each year. And it is about 50/50 gay/straight now with more straights attending each year. It is also interesting to me how many, many times now someone has posted a web site that has pictures from the Folsom Street Fair. I imagine those sites have some fascination for many of you otherwise you wouldn't keep finding them and putting up links here.
I do understand and accept that for many of you, the sight of a naked body in pubic causes you to be terribly upset. For quite a few others, being naked and sometimes in public is a natural part of being human. Nudists have been derided continually here and in this culture. It seems the idea of freedom many of you have is the freedom to do what YOU want and that does not include the freedom to do what others want. I'm not talking here about going about hurting anyone. I'm simply talking about the freedom of a very few people taking off their clothes in public.
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Michael Psycle
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11-19-2012, 08:29 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Psycle
Yet another link to the Folsom Street Fair. Just for you to know, the Folsom Street Fair this year raised $324,000 for local charities. It raises a similar amount each year. There is no local objections to the Folsom Street Fair. Everyone knows what goes on there and only those who are interested attend. It is the third largest public gathering in California each year. And it is about 50/50 gay/straight now with more straights attending each year. It is also interesting to me how many, many times now someone has posted a web site that has pictures from the Folsom Street Fair. I imagine those sites have some fascination for many of you otherwise you wouldn't keep finding them and putting up links here.
I do understand and accept that for many of you, the sight of a naked body in pubic causes you to be terribly upset. For quite a few others, being naked and sometimes in public is a natural part of being human. Nudists have been derided continually here and in this culture. It seems the idea of freedom many of you have is the freedom to do what YOU want and that does not include the freedom to do what others want. I'm not talking here about going about hurting anyone. I'm simply talking about the freedom of a very few people taking off their clothes in public.
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I wonder if my neighbors will give me a pass then if I were to stroll around the yard nekid. I'll just say there's a charity involved and I'm absolved from my transgression.
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11-19-2012, 08:32 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by RGRider
I wonder if my neighbors will give me a pass then if I were to stroll around the yard nekid.
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I certainly hope so.
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Michael Psycle
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