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Old 11-15-2012, 09:54 PM   #61 (permalink)
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The Republican candidate for president has only led in the popular vote one time in the last six presidential elections.
And I see we're still not addressing those top 10...
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:58 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I have said previously what I thought about the OP's post. Go back and read my replies if you don't remember.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:01 PM   #63 (permalink)
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The Republican candidate for president has only led in the popular vote one time in the last six presidential elections.
Well when your people push democracy down our throats that might be important. But until that time we don't elect Presidents by majority vote..
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:06 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I have said previously what I thought about the OP's post. Go back and read my replies if you don't remember.

No you didn't and MP you never answer a direct question.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:22 PM   #65 (permalink)
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No you didn't and MP you never answer a direct question.
I have said what I thought of the OP. It's all his spin on reality. Enough said.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:37 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Did you write this yourself, or did you use someone else's words without attibution?
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AS I read through this topic, I am happy to see that none of you so called conservatives who have posted here have learned anything from the last election. Please keep saying the kinds of things you have been saying here and similar stuff elsewhere. The American public did not buy it in the last two presidential elections and I doubt the electorate will buy it in the future. Even Newt Gingrich said last night on Stephen Colbert that the Republican party has to learn from the last election that its extreme positions were not shared by the electorate. Now I may not be quoting him exactly but that was the essence. So while I find much of what is said by the radical right to be repugnant, it does help the people to vote for a center/left moderate like Obama.

And many Democrats are hoping the Republicans do not learn from this election and nominate Paul Ryan or someone with similar ideas next time. (How about Rick Santorum)?
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Please keep saying things in this sarcastic manner. It will only help the Democrats.
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I believe it is good for the nation for the radical right "conservatives" to keeping venting their outrageous verbiage, the kind we have a lot of here on the forum. I believe this is a huge turn off to middle America and therefore would encourage you to keep making the outrageous comments that I consistently read here. Please keep attacking everything Obama does regardless of what it is. No one believed the boy who cried wolf once too often, either.
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California voted for Obama, has two Democratic Senators, a Democratic Governor and both houses of the legislature the Democrats have more than a 2/3 majority now. Clearly the citizens of California like the approach espoused the Democratic party. We also just voted to raise our property taxes to support education. And we get to ride all year. So, yes, I would think it would be nice if more of the country voted like California.
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No, I don't have those figures handy. But if what you say is correct, it doesn't seem unreasonable for labor to be the biggest expense in a school system. And I don'[t know what the exact percent should be. It is like that in a lot of industries, labor intensive.

I've known many teachers in my time. There are career teachers in my family and among my extended network of friends. None of them are earning an excessive amount of money. Most of those who I know would earn more money working for a large corporation. I don't begrudge them what they are earning or their pensions.

The main problem with children not learning goes back to the individual families and what a poor job of raising children a lot of those families are doing. If you want to improve educational scores, then figure out a way to help the families to do a better job of supervising the education of the children in the family. And what I just said about helping families is a massively complex task. It is not a one or two thing solution. Nothing helps a kid to learn more than a stable home life and competent parents who take their job responsibly.

And California spends less per student than almost any other state. It's right near the bottom now. Mississippi used to be the lowest. California has been getting into that range in spending per child.
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That is exactly the point. This forum is not representative of the country. Your and your radical right buddies around here can yell and scream all you want on this forum or other places. It only makes the Republican party look like a bunch of loons, which is fine with me at this point. So please do not stop this diatribe you have been on. It only helps to turn the middle toward the progressive causes espoused by the Democratic party.
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Keep believing your own spin on reality. It will only help the Democrats to get elected.
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Your sarcasm makes it quite difficult to have a meaningful exchange of ideas with you. When you learn how to make your points in a serious and thoughtful manner, I will be more open to discussing issues with you. Until then your posts I believe are mostly for those who agree with you.
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According to Karl Rove in 2001, if you win by one electoral vote, you have a mandate to put into legislation your entire platform. That was his response to those who said Bush did not have a majority of the popular vote and thus did not have a mandate.
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I have said what I thought of the OP. It's all his spin on reality. Enough said.
Just not seeing it MP. Looks like a lot of whining about us radical righties and your continued attempt to justify why obama should be YOUR president.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:00 PM   #67 (permalink)
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California voted for Obama, has two Democratic Senators, a Democratic Governor and both houses of the legislature the Democrats have more than a 2/3 majority now. Clearly the citizens of California like the approach espoused the Democratic party. We also just voted to raise our property taxes to support education. And we get to ride all year. So, yes, I would think it would be nice if more of the country voted like California.
Do I have to switch parties to get to vote on the weather?
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Your sarcasm makes it quite difficult to have a meaningful exchange of ideas with you. When you learn how to make your points in a serious and thoughtful manner, I will be more open to discussing issues with you. Until then your posts I believe are mostly for those who agree with you.
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I have said what I thought of the OP. It's all his spin on reality. Enough said.
OK Michael, I have generally been on your side in a number of discussions in this forum, BUT;

I just did read all of your posts and I see nothing of any substance in any of them. I respectfully disagree with your "enough said" statement. You haven't said anything.

I am also curious to know which of the 10 points you disagree with. You can call it whining or venting or sarcsam all you want, but just as if the situation were reversed, I think it does deserve at least some bit of reasonable dispute.

Is "I know you are but what am I?" really all you've got? I expect better than that from you.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:26 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Just not seeing it MP. Looks like a lot of whining about us radical righties and your continued attempt to justify why obama should be YOUR president.
I'm impressed that you took all that time to collect my quotes for your post. I stand by my posts. Thanks for collecting them for others to read.
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I'm impressed that you took all that time to collect my quotes for your post. I stand by my posts. Thanks for collecting them for others to read.
Ya know Michael, I think you and Obama do have something in common.

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Will someone describe in detail just what eggzactly will happen to and in our country when, in a relatively short time span from now, the people who have real (productive) jobs will no longer have enough income to where their taxes will support all the unemployed, infirm, minimum wage majority? It' already happening now but it's going to get worse. This scenario is far more actual than man causing global warming. Forget about the "rich" supporting us, there will not be a middle class left. We can't have an economy based on service sector jobs, we need maunfacturing and that seems to have gone away. And you kids get off my lawn.
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That's an answer alright. How foolish of me not to see it.
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I guess Claytp1's post went right over your head. The word should have been "attribution" not "attibution"! In case you're still scratching your head trying to figure it out he was pointing out that Michael misspelled attribution.
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Just not seeing it MP. Looks like a lot of whining about us radical righties and your continued attempt to justify why obama should be YOUR president.
Nothing to justify really. President Obama was voted in as America's President. If you don't like it thats just sad for you.
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I guess Claytp1's post went right over your head. The word should have been "attribution" not "attibution"! In case you're still scratching your head trying to figure it out he was pointing out that Michael misspelled attribution.


Nope. Not over the top of my head. My sarcasm went right over the top of yours though.
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