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Old 11-10-2012, 08:58 AM   #31 (permalink)
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James is reading this now saying WTF is this? James is reading this now saying WTF is this?
We should have Rumsfeld and Cheney water board him. I'll bet they can make him tell us what the the pubs want him to say.
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Old 11-10-2012, 11:51 AM   #32 (permalink)
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The General followed the code of conduct and resigned when he was found to be in conflict of it. Let it go as that.




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Old 11-10-2012, 02:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The General followed the code of conduct and resigned when he was found to be in conflict of it. Let it go as that.




The investigation started this spring. Kinda funny timing it all comes out after the election then ain't it?
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:45 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Erections have consequences...!!!
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:34 PM   #35 (permalink)
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... by Right Wingers who don't know that Congress can subpoena Petraeus and anyone else they want whether they're head of CIA or not.

The level of ignorance is staggering.
Not exactly. Congress has the power (not constitutionally mind you) by Judicial fiat, to call a witness to testify or turn over documents. If they refuse to do so a contempt prosecution falls to the executive branch. So...in this case...Petraeus would have to be prosecuted by the Obama Administration.

Perhaps you recall that guy...ummm...what's his name? - Oh yeah....Eric Holder.

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Old 11-10-2012, 06:38 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:01 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The General followed the code of conduct and resigned when he was found to be in conflict of it. Let it go as that.




If the general had followed the code of conduct he never would have had that affair and would still be the head of the CIA. He gets no credit for resigning a day or two before he would have been fired.
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Interesting how a General can lose his job over this, but his Commander in Chief should be entitled to his private life.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:00 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Interesting how a General can lose his job over this, but his Commander in Chief should be entitled to his private life.
He's no longer a General, Clay. However, plenty of General officers have had affairs, that became known, and continued on in their careers.

I live in northern Virginia, which means I'm in the Washington, DC media market so you can imagine how much attention this is getting on the news and in the newspapers. Today's Washington Post has a few articles that sheds more light on why the investigation started, what the FBI initially thought, and when they went to the administration (not President Obama). I'm sure there are more facts out there but assuming what I read is true, it makes sense that they didn't inform the administration sooner. Petraeus is not facing criminal charges- having an affair is not a federal crime. So if you don't have all of the facts straight, you don't report something that may not be true. I'm also guessing that Petraeus' reputation and stature came in to play in the FBI not wanting to get this wrong.

Why did he resign? Only Petraeus can answer that but I'll offer this-- it was the right thing to do. But it appears as if he wasn't asked for his letter of resignation. He offered it and it's being reported he would not be talked out of it. It's also important to remember that he led an organization that would strip security clearances, effectively ending someone's career, for having an affair because of the security risk affairs bring. More importantly, he would have lost credibility with the organization he was leading.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:20 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Remember back in the Regan erra when a guy named North took the hit for the president ?? Could he possibly be taking the hit for the president and drawing focus away from the embasy case?? If so, he is a good soldier and will be rewarded for it down the road somewhere. In the wind.

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He's no longer a General, Clay. However, plenty of General officers have had affairs, that became known, and continued on in their careers.

I live in northern Virginia, which means I'm in the Washington, DC media market so you can imagine how much attention this is getting on the news and in the newspapers. Today's Washington Post has a few articles that sheds more light on why the investigation started, what the FBI initially thought, and when they went to the administration (not President Obama). I'm sure there are more facts out there but assuming what I read is true, it makes sense that they didn't inform the administration sooner. Petraeus is not facing criminal charges- having an affair is not a federal crime. So if you don't have all of the facts straight, you don't report something that may not be true. I'm also guessing that Petraeus' reputation and stature came in to play in the FBI not wanting to get this wrong.

Why did he resign? Only Petraeus can answer that but I'll offer this-- it was the right thing to do. But it appears as if he wasn't asked for his letter of resignation. He offered it and it's being reported he would not be talked out of it. It's also important to remember that he led an organization that would strip security clearances, effectively ending someone's career, for having an affair because of the security risk affairs bring. More importantly, he would have lost credibility with the organization he was leading.
All I can say is thank you for making my point. While there's not much doubt Petraeus had a moment of poor judgment, at least he had the integrity to step up and understand the consequences of his actions. Seems a reasonable requirement for the CINC, no?
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I suspect that's the difference between being appointed and being elected. Is it right? I don't know. Should Al Gore have been given the Presidency because of Clinton's sexual escapade(s)? I think our country would have suffered more under Gore.
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I suspect that's the difference between being appointed and being elected. Is it right? I don't know. Should Al Gore have been given the Presidency because of Clinton's sexual escapade(s)? I think our country would have suffered more under Gore.
Gore as POTUS is a scary thought. But "Do as I say, not as I do" isn't the type of standard I think the POTUS should set. I'd have less disdain for Clinton if he just came out and admitted to it, but that's not within a narcissist's nature.

P.S. Did you see Jimmy wreck out today? For the first time in several years I was not in attendance.
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P.S. Did you see Jimmy wreck out today? For the first time in several years I was not in attendance.
I did see the wreck. My 7year old is a Jimmy fan and he was not happy about it. In addition to the race, the MMA action in the pits was an added bonus!
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The General followed the code of conduct and resigned when he was found to be in conflict of it. Let it go as that.

Let it go as that,... yeah, whatever. What a big load of horsechit.

The fact is: the general didn't follow the code of conduct, and only resigned when he was caught red-handed.

Apparently, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R), knew about the Petraeus' affair back in October.

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(CNN) -- House Majority Leader Eric Cantor knew in October about former CIA Director David Petraeus' involvement in an extramarital affair, a spokesman for the congressman told CNN on Sunday.
Doug Heye said Cantor, a Republican, was tipped to the information by an FBI employee. The congressman had a conversation with the official, described as a whistle-blower, about the affair and national security concerns involved in the matter, he said.
The New York Times reported Saturday that on October 31, Cantor's chief of staff phoned the FBI to inform the agency about the call between the congressman and the FBI official. The Times reported that Cantor learned of the whistle-blower through Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/11/us/pet...html?hpt=hp_t1
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