Why Obama won

[Michael Psycle]

Originally Posted by RGRider

Yeah, might as well. Look at how good the Swede's have it these days. I wanna live that good life too. Btw, how much does a Harley cost over there, I'll bet it's damn near free these days.

Sweden has one of the higher standards of living in the world.

[Uncle Salty]

Originally Posted by Michael Psycle

Sweden has one of the higher standards of living in the world.

All the more reason to increase taxes. Bring it on. Although corporate taxes are considerably less in Sweden. Ha! What were they thinking? But enough of that, taxes for everyone.

[Hamilton]

Originally Posted by Uncle Salty

All the more reason to increase taxes. Bring it on. Although corporate taxes are considerably less in Sweden. Ha! What were they thinking? But enough of that, taxes for everyone.

Salty, I agree.

Vote yes on every tax hike.

Vote yes on every bond.

Grow the state. Let a hand full of elected people rule, let a truck load of appointed people govern.

[webco2]

Originally Posted by Uncle Salty

All the more reason to increase taxes. Bring it on. Although corporate taxes are considerably less in Sweden. Ha! What were they thinking? But enough of that, taxes for everyone.

Let them run wild for the next few years.... then after the crash we can pick up the pieces and return to a good life .

[Uncle Salty]

Congress has an approval rating of 10% yet 80% of them get reelected. We bitch about the problems, then we reelect them. Did we expect change?

[utrvp]

Originally Posted by Uncle Salty

Congress has an approval rating of 10% yet 80% of them get reelected. We bitch about the problems, then we reelect them. Did we expect change?

Considering the White House and both Houses of Congress remain virtually just as they were before the election I would say the American people liked anemic to no economic growth, high unemployment, trillion dollar deficits and gridlock just fine.

[Uncle Salty]

That's what it looks like to me. There was a first for me in the last election. I didn't vote for a Democrat or Republican on the whole ticket.

[Michael Psycle]

Originally Posted by webco2

Let them run wild for the next few years.... then after the crash we can pick up the pieces and return to a good life .

Good advice. The policies that the Democrats will put in place will affect the country for years to come in a positive way. Like with Supreme Court appointments.

[Michael Psycle]

Originally Posted by Uncle Salty

Congress has an approval rating of 10% yet 80% of them get reelected. We bitch about the problems, then we reelect them. Did we expect change?

When will you learn that when people say they don't like Congress they are not talking about their own Congressional representatives, just the others.

[Michael Psycle]

Originally Posted by utrvp

Considering the White House and both Houses of Congress remain virtually just as they were before the election I would say the American people liked anemic to no economic growth, high unemployment, trillion dollar deficits and gridlock just fine.

I believe the economy is just about to pick up and would have regardless of who won the election. So I am happy that Obama will get the credit, just the way FDR did. The economy was real good under Clinton. This will seal the idea that the Democrats and the party of prosperity.

Check back in a year and call me out if I am wrong.

[RGRider]

Originally Posted by Michael Psycle

I believe the economy is just about to pick up and would have regardless of who won the election. So I am happy that Obama will get the credit, just the way FDR did. The economy was real good under Clinton. This will seal the idea that the Democrats and the party of prosperity.

Check back in a year and call me out if I am wrong.

And when it hasn't picked up like you hope you'll blame everyone EXCEPT Obama.

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[Uncle Salty]

Originally Posted by Michael Psycle

I believe the economy is just about to pick up and would have regardless of who won the election. So I am happy that Obama will get the credit, just the way FDR did. The economy was real good under Clinton. This will seal the idea that the Democrats and the party of prosperity.

Check back in a year and call me out if I am wrong.

The economy was good under Clinton largely due to "a consumption binge stoked by reckless financial deregulation." (liberal economist and Obama supporter, Jeffery Sachs) Real estate prices soared and lenders were making gambles that would scare Puggy Pearson. The booming Clinton era economy was stimulated with risky fiscal policy. Clinton left office with the economy in a recession caused largely by the dot com crash. If you're going to tell a fairy tale, might as well tell how Little Red Riding Hood was lunch for the big bad wolf.

Combined with the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Bush was dealt a bad hand. Unfortunately, his solution was moderately effective tax cuts and continued poor fiscal policies of the Clinton era which eventually lead to the financial crisis of 2007–2008.

Stimulating the economy by throwing money at the problem, keeping the interest rates artificially low and printing excess currency isn't a long term solution. Our government hasn't learned yet. We're on a bad path and when the cookie crumbles it going to hurt. Check back in 2015 and call me out if I am wrong.

[Michael Psycle]

Originally Posted by Uncle Salty

The economy was good under Clinton largely due to "a consumption binge stoked by reckless financial deregulation." (liberal economist and Obama supporter, Jeffery Sachs) Real estate prices soared and lenders were making gambles that would scare Puggy Pearson. The booming Clinton era economy was stimulated with risky fiscal policy. Clinton left office with the economy in a recession caused largely by the dot com crash. If you're going to tell a fairy tale, might as well tell how Little Red Riding Hood was lunch for the big bad wolf.

Combined with the terrorist attacks of 9/11, Bush was dealt a bad hand. Unfortunately, his solution was moderately effective tax cuts and continued poor fiscal policies of the Clinton era which eventually lead to the financial crisis of 2007–2008.

Stimulating the economy by throwing money at the problem, keeping the interest rates artificially low and printing excess currency isn't a long term solution. Our government hasn't learned yet. We're on a bad path and when the cookie crumbles it going to hurt. Check back in 2015 and call me out if I am wrong.

As the years go by, more and more people are remembering Clinton/Bubba warmly. They have a positive image of him as a financial manager. I won't argue with you what is true, what is not. I'm sure you believe what you wrote. But fortunately most Americans remember if differently.

You also forgot to mention that Clinton balanced the budget.

[Michael Psycle]

Originally Posted by RGRider

And when it hasn't picked up like you hope you'll blame everyone EXCEPT Obama.

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And when it does pick up under Obama, will you admit you were wrong about Obama and your predictions? I doubt it. You'll find some reason not to give Obama credit for anything.

[RGRider]

Originally Posted by Michael Psycle

As the years go by, more and more people are remembering Clinton/Bubba warmly. They have a positive image of him as a financial manager. I won't argue with you what is true, what is not. I'm sure you believe what you wrote. But fortunately most Americans remember if differently.

You also forgot to mention that Clinton balanced the budget.