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Old 11-08-2012, 03:42 PM   #91 (permalink)
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That ship is already sinking, might as well get it over with so we can start over...
that's a nice sound byte but what does it mean?
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:59 PM   #92 (permalink)
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I think Romney would have been elected if he did five things:
Leave the abortion and immigration issues alone. At best, say something like 'abortion is here and I'm not going to be for it or against it.' Don't aggravate the minorities.
Instead of 'math that doesn't add up' on balancing the budget, say 'I'm going to legalize gambling, marajuana, and prostitution. All the taxes from these 3 items will go into a fund to balance the budget'.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:19 PM   #93 (permalink)
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i understand your frustration DJW but have to ask, do you think you won't get wet if "the boat" you mentioned does indeed sink?
Bob, I cast my vote, and as usual it was overwhelmed here in blue state NY. America got what it voted for: a lie.

Okay, fine, whatever....

As the saying goes:

IT'S NOT MY JOB TO RUN THIS BOAT, THE HORN I CANNOT BLOW.
IT'S NOT MY JOB TO SAY HOW FAR THIS BOAT'S ALLOWED TO GO.
IT'S NOT MY JOB TO THROTTLE UP, OR EVEN CLANG THE BELL.
BUT LET THIS DAMN BOAT HIT THE DOCK, AND SEE WHO CATCHES HELL.

Well, the progressives have the boat now...but just watch when it all goes straight to hell, they'll still be blaming Bush.

All the pubs need to win the next election is 1% more in Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. Doesn't seem that difficult to me under the circumstances.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:07 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Bob, I cast my vote, and as usual it was overwhelmed here in blue state NY. America got what it voted for: a lie.
Well just cry me a river, Dan.

When one considers that the alternative to the president elect was a much bigger lie, America made the correct choice.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:09 PM   #95 (permalink)
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that's a nice sound byte but what does it mean?
if you can't beat 'em join 'em, if we all get on board with the Socialist agenda the sooner the system is crashed then we can get on with the revolution...
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:21 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Unless Obama does some miraculous economic recovery, in four mo' years of this people will be begging for someone like Mitt Romney to save their sorry asses. I can't imagine another 48 months of printing more money, building a bigger deficit and no viable way to pay for it ending well for any of us. Next candidate whether Independent, Libertarian or Republican needs to leave peoples bedrooms out of the equation and have a viable way to both enforce the borders and streamline the process of immigration. Latinos are not a minority in many places and many of the anchor babies are now of voting age, and voting democrat. Treating women and some of the other groups with respect will go a long way. IMO religion should not be the primary reason someone is elected President. Have your beliefs but don't force them on everybody. It is also sad to think that realistically no 3rd party candidate has but a snowballs chance in hell*.

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Old 11-08-2012, 07:38 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Here's why Obama won.

‎"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful, good society' which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean: more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Old 11-08-2012, 09:01 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Next candidate whether Independent, Libertarian or Republican needs to leave peoples bedrooms out of the equation...
That's not on the Libertarian agenda. From the Libertarian website, "Libertarians believe that being free and independent is a great way to live. We want a system which encourages all people to choose what they want from life; that lets them live, love, work, play, and dream their own way."
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:55 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Compromise with the Left? Might as well dance with the Devil.

Millions of Americans do not understand conservatism and how it works because it is never taught. Will a student learn its fundamentals in the classroom of the public school system, or from higher academia? Are you kidding? Instead, kids get a 12+ year crash course of 100% secular leftist indoctrination, while the main stream media other leftist splinter groups trash its fundamentals relentlessly.

The GOP, with failure, already tried compromising with the left in 2008 with McCain. Brilliant.

B. H. Obama didn't compromise after the beating he took in 2010, but he and Axlerod stayed the course and won a second term.

Mittens lost the election, not because he was too conservative, he lost because he was not a great communicator. Unlike Ronald Reagan, who soon found he had coalition of Reagan Democrats.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:04 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Compromise with the Left? Might as well dance with the Devil.

Millions of Americans do not understand conservatism and how it works because it is never taught. Will a student learn its fundamentals in the classroom of the public school system, or from higher academia? Are you kidding? Instead, kids get a 12+ year crash course of 100% secular leftist indoctrination, while the main stream media other leftist splinter groups trash its fundamentals relentlessly.

The GOP, with failure, already tried compromising with the left in 2008 with McCain. Brilliant.

B. H. Obama didn't compromise after the beating he took in 2010, but he and Axlerod stayed the course and won a second term.

Mittens lost the election, not because he was too conservative, he lost because he was not a great communicator. Unlike Ronald Reagan, who soon found he had coalition of Reagan Democrats.
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:30 AM   #101 (permalink)
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the average American does not understand or care about multi-trillion dollar deficit. If most of them have jobs and the trains run on time, god willin' and the creek don't rise, they'll vote Democratic because they won't have to plan ahead. The gummint will take care of them. (just like in Greece)


There's a marker. Do Republicans have better financial planning for retirement?
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:21 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Of course GOP can choose to go even more extremist and get spanked again in 2016,... even harder.


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If all they can do for another four years is anything and everything to keep Biden from a first term, they will get spanked again.
Its not Bush, its Republicans.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:12 AM   #103 (permalink)
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If all they can do for another four years is anything and everything to keep Biden from a first term, they will get spanked again.
It’s not Bush, it’s Republicans.

(Except it's not really the Republicans -- it's the crackpots who call the party's shots today)

And spanked even harder, since the GOP constituency is thinning year by year.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:00 PM   #104 (permalink)
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What's interesting is that Left Wing ideologues make the same points -- only the public school indoctrination in their case consists of fostering knee-jerk patriotism, a heroic view of American history, reinforcing traditional social roles, etc ... all the leftist bugaboos.

I guess the real lesson is that ideologues share the same crackpot theories. They just arrive at them from different directions, depending on their particular biases. Oddly. though, they themselves always seem to have been immune from the indoctrination, despite all those years in academia.
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What's interesting is that Left Wing ideologues make the same points -- only the public school indoctrination in their case consists of fostering knee-jerk patriotism, a heroic view of American history, reinforcing traditional social roles, etc ... all the leftist bugaboos.

I guess the real lesson is that ideologues share the same crackpot theories. They just arrive at them from different directions, depending on their particular biases. Oddly. though, they themselves always seem to have been immune from the indoctrination, despite all those years in academia.

Good one Casey!
Especially the last sentence.
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