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Old 11-07-2012, 12:23 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Now that the GOP has failed to succeed at McConnell's job no. 1 --ensuring that Obama is a one-term president -- maybe they'll grab the hand across the aisle instead of just saying "no." But if it's more obstructionism and game-playing and hoping the president fails, then it's not going to happen.
It might serve a lot of folks well to find out what all the 'obstructionism' is related to before passing judgement. For instance, say a couple of guys get together and buy some land and then want to build condos on that land. One wants to build something that they can afford to build that will appeal to the majority. The other, being a stubborn ass set in his ways wants something that is excessive in cost with features that few will want or can afford. I'm betting the ass would be running around telling all his equally asshole buddies that want a piece of the action that the other guy is obstructing construction even though the other guy is in reality the one that is thinking straight.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:46 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Now that the GOP has failed to succeed at McConnell's job no. 1 --ensuring that Obama is a one-term president --
In retrospect that statement by McConnell may have helped to ensured that Obama is a two term president.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:50 PM   #63 (permalink)
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It might serve a lot of folks well to find out what all the 'obstructionism' is related to before passing judgement. For instance, say a couple of guys get together and buy some land and then want to build condos on that land. One wants to build something that they can afford to build that will appeal to the majority. The other, being a stubborn ass set in his ways wants something that is excessive in cost with features that few will want or can afford. I'm betting the ass would be running around telling all his equally asshole buddies that want a piece of the action that the other guy is obstructing construction even though the other guy is in reality the one that is thinking straight.
funny how that works isn't it?

Obstructionism blah blah blah, Bush's fault blah blah blah. Republicans fault blah blah blah.

The truth is the Dems are just as unwilling to compromise as the Reps are, they've taken a highhanded approach since day one and apparently were not humbled by the loss of the House 2 years ago. I don't see it getting any better in the next two either...
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It might serve a lot of folks well to find out what all the 'obstructionism' is related to before passing judgement. For instance, say a couple of guys get together and buy some land and then want to build condos on that land. One wants to build something that they can afford to build that will appeal to the majority. The other, being a stubborn ass set in his ways wants something that is excessive in cost with features that few will want or can afford. I'm betting the ass would be running around telling all his equally asshole buddies that want a piece of the action that the other guy is obstructing construction even though the other guy is in reality the one that is thinking straight.
Maybe the two partners could sit down and come up with a plan that would appeal to the majority but also have some of the features that will appeal to the few.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:00 PM   #65 (permalink)
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funny how that works isn't it?

Obstructionism blah blah blah, Bush's fault blah blah blah. Republicans fault blah blah blah.

The truth is the Dems are just as unwilling to compromise as the Reps are, they've taken a highhanded approach since day one and apparently were not humbled by the loss of the House 2 years ago. I don't see it getting any better in the next two either...
When I read this forum, it's pretty clear to me that the people who reject compromise are the Right Wingers -- usually based on nothing more than their belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
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When I read this forum, it's pretty clear to me that the people who reject compromise are the Right Wingers -- usually based on nothing more than their belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
you only prove my point with that statement, sitting on your soapbox blaming the "right wingers" you're the pot calling the kettle black...
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It's kind of hard for a conservative to win when the media is carrying Obama's water. It was an uphill battle for Romney and in the end he lost by not being aggressive enough and forcing the Benghazi issue to come up. He should have hammered Obama for it. Now we can only hope he is impeached and we end up with president Biden. Heaven help us.
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49% of Americans voted for obstruction. The Republicans need to fight the democrats, it's what their constituency elected them to do.
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It's kind of hard for a conservative to win when the media is carrying Obama's water. It was an uphill battle for Romney and in the end he lost by not being aggressive enough and forcing the Benghazi issue to come up. He should have hammered Obama for it. Now we can only hope he is impeached and we end up with president Biden. Heaven help us.
It'll never happen with the press we have now..remember Clinton???




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Old 11-07-2012, 01:33 PM   #70 (permalink)
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It's kind of hard for a conservative to win when the media is carrying Obama's water.
I know this may be difficult to accept but the progressives in this country believe that the media is tilted toward the conservatives. I'm not suggesting here who is right or wrong, just saying this is an issue in which both sides feel that the media is not in their corner. Each side will point to media that favor their argument.
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It's kind of hard for a conservative to win when the media is carrying Obama's water. It was an uphill battle for Romney and in the end he lost by not being aggressive enough and forcing the Benghazi issue to come up. He should have hammered Obama for it. Now we can only hope he is impeached and we end up with president Biden. Heaven help us.
Or we can impeach them both and end up with President John Boehner.
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Or we can impeach them both and end up with President John Boehner.
Boehner is no prize either. I am coming to grips with the fact that regardless who wins our country is doomed. Can any of you show me a way to change the course we are on? I cannot think of a scenario that doesn't end badly.

I am in Vegas, just woke up, going to go gamble and head out for a nice dinner and an evening of supporting college students and single mothers.
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I know this may be difficult to accept but the progressives in this country believe that the media is tilted toward the conservatives. I'm not suggesting here who is right or wrong, just saying this is an issue in which both sides feel that the media is not in their corner. Each side will point to media that favor their argument.
they can believe what they want but it's already been proven that most of the major networks and media outlets are liberal biased, Fox is the only really conservative biased outlet..
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in 2010 the Democrats were "shellacked" . What happened these last 2 years for them to make a comeback of sorts?
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Just wait and see what big business and job creaters do over the next four years, nothing, same as the last four.

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