Obama Wins

[James]

Originally Posted by Casey0211

The only reason Romney did as well as he did was by shaking the old Etch-a-Sketch.

Romney may be well educated but he is not street smart. He'd be an "ignorant tool" (yes I said tool and not fool) around me or my friends.

[Shaw_2112]

Originally Posted by Casey0211

They probably won't win another presidential election. ....

I find this statement rather absurd, with the exception of some truly horrible presidents like Carter historically it's almost impossible to unseat the incumbent. Romney failed only because he was just more of the same, he couldn't sway the independents. I know I didn't vote for either.

At 51% to 49% the country is more divided than ever, I wouldn't exactly call that a "mandate". The next 4 years will just be more of the same, the momentum will swing in the conservative direction when the voters realize they got duped again.

The only good thing about this election is that everything remains virtually the same, Congress will be deadlocked for at least the next two years, with any luck they won't do any more damage than they already have.

It was inevitable that the socialists takeover, it was predicted long ago. It's always that way in the beginning of the decline of any great power. I was just hoping I wouldn't see it in my lifetime...

[KingRoad]

Great...4 more years of wondering if its my last day before my plant shuts down, 4 more years of my 401k squeeking out a 1% gain, 4 more years of no pay raises.

I'm too old for this crap for 4 more years.

[HDSickness]

Sad, Sad day when people cheer the election of a man who hates America!
Read his book!

[utrvp]

Originally Posted by squidly

What's his excuse going to be for the next four years. Watch the value of the dollar degenerate as Obama and the fed continue quantitative easing, robbing you of your savings. Good job America, your stupidity saddens me greatly.

For four years he has done nothing and blamed Bush for and yet he got re-elected. I suspect we are in for four more years of continuing to blame George W. Bush, running up the debt, unemployment at 14%, 75% of the population on food stamps, much more borrowing from China then in 2016 we will hear they just need a little more time. Sadly this country is getting the government it deserves. Anyone who voted for Obama in 08 and again in 12 should heed the words of Benjamin Franklin, "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn." You should be ashamed!

[kustom_flames]

That's real classy, Casey....yup gloat like your favorite team has just won the big game...of course, I'd expect nothing less....

[lucille]

Glad that the climax to 'the anti-climax' is over for a few years for the American people.
Your fine country is being run into the ground ...... you deserve better. Being glib to diffuse inept policies and behavior, and saddled with a 16 trillion dollar debt .... I wish you well.
Really glad that I'm a Canadian .....

[utrvp]

Originally Posted by thrasher

Living in denial is NOT going to avert the impending demise of the GOP if they stay their course. As James eludes to, they have to change some of their policies to get back in touch with reality: less extremist and more centrist.

Of course GOP can choose to go even more extremist and get spanked again in 2016,... even harder.

They have to change.

The reality is there are more piglets dependent on the government teat than not. They have discovered that if they can keep voting the government sow back into office they never have to get off the teat. Unfortunately they keep reproducing and outnumber those who take care of themselves. Someone else said it more eloquently than that but I don't recall the quote or who said it. That is the reality and that is what is going to make the U.S. a third world country unless the American people wake up quit demanding the producers give them more!

[choochmalooch]

I woke up yesterday with the ideals and beliefs that there would be a positive change in our government and things would begin to improve. I wound up going to bed with the small satisfaction that I wouldn't have to watch any more wasteful campaign commercials. It's a sad day knowing that for the next 4 years I will still have to contend with "someone else" having their hand in my pocket spending my hard earned wages to support those that don't deserve it.

[Casey0211]

Originally Posted by Shaw_2112

I find this statement rather absurd, with the exception of some truly horrible presidents like Carter historically it's almost impossible to unseat the incumbent. Romney failed only because he was just more of the same, he couldn't sway the independents. I know I didn't vote for either.

At 51% to 49% the country is more divided than ever, I wouldn't exactly call that a "mandate". The next 4 years will just be more of the same, the momentum will swing in the conservative direction when the voters realize they got duped again.

The only good thing about this election is that everything remains virtually the same, Congress will be deadlocked for at least the next two years, with any luck they won't do any more damage than they already have.

It was inevitable that the socialists takeover, it was predicted long ago. It's always that way in the beginning of the decline of any great power. I was just hoping I wouldn't see it in my lifetime...

I don't think the country is as divided as you think. The only reason Romney did as well as he did was that he basically dropped the Right Wing policies he espoused during the primary. The GOP got beat not only in the presidential race but for the Senate, too. Even the House races showed the country rejecting crackpots like Allen West. That's the Republican conundrum in a nutshell. You have to outflank the GOP's Michelle Bachmans on the Right to win the nomination. But once you do that, you've painted yourself as a crackpot. The candidate can either continue that route or flip-flop. If the same Romney who won the governorship of Massachusetts had run for president, Obama wouldn't have stood a chance.

But I don't expect the Right to learn the lesson.

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by kustom_flames

That's real classy, Casey....yup gloat like your favorite team has just won the big game...of course, I'd expect nothing less....

This forum is not the epitome of class with the things that have been said over the last few months. Honestly, it detracts from the quality of the V-Twin forums overall.

[Casey0211]

Originally Posted by kustom_flames

That's real classy, Casey....yup gloat like your favorite team has just won the big game...of course, I'd expect nothing less....

Spare me -- You Righties been gloating over Obama's pending demise for four years.

But I guess I expect the Right to be sore losers. They usually are because they feel entitled to govern

[RGRider]

Originally Posted by Casey0211

But I guess I expect the Right to be sore losers. They usually are because they feel entitled to govern

There's no greater entitlement than lefties to government.

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by utrvp

For four years he has done nothing and blamed Bush for and yet he got re-elected. I suspect we are in for four more years of continuing to blame George W. Bush, running up the debt, unemployment at 14%, 75% of the population on food stamps, much more borrowing from China then in 2016 we will hear they just need a little more time. Sadly this country is getting the government it deserves. Anyone who voted for Obama in 08 and again in 12 should heed the words of Benjamin Franklin, "Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn." You should be ashamed!

There is a lot in what you say and I agree with it but the phrase that grabbed me was "yet he got re-elected". How did that happen? Look at the numbers and you see that the margin was much greater in the Electorial College than the popular vote - a message in itself. The EC can be bought, swayed, turned, etc. because those are mostly well-to-do folks who are less than concerned about the grass roots working people. I think if people knew that their vote was truely going to count things may well have turned out different - or not. I'm in no way stereotyping anyone because there are folks that work at McDonalds, Burger King and other fast food places and several other jobs that are receiving food stamps and possibly other government subsidies. These folks are working and trying to make some sort of respectable life for themselves and their family but then there are those that are on government relief and have no desire what-so-ever, nor plan of doing any different and that is probably a lot of the population that casts votes for the current president. That's about all I have to say about that other than he may be the president (again) but he shall NEVER be my commander-and-chief.

[Uncle Salty]

At least Obama will be president when the economy falls into a deep recession. If Romney was in office when the depression hits we’d have to listen to the liberals BS about how the free market is ruining things for everyone. The likelihood of Romney changing the fundamental problem is slim to none. As long as the Fed continues to resuscitate the economy with paper-asset inflation and manipulate interest rates, we will continue to have economic crises similar to those in 1980, 1987, 1990, 2000 and 2008.

The victory for America may be that Obama won’t mass murder Iranians over the nuclear issues there. As Pat Buchanan and Robert Gates have stated, an attack on Iran could have catastrophic consequences. I believe they are correct.

The GOP will indeed need to change. The Democrats also need to stop gloating long enough to realize that a Romney victory was just one small mistake away from reality. The GOP kicked the Ron Paul supporters to the side in August. Last night they sat on their hands and watched Romney go down in flames. Had the GOP shown them respect, Romney would be the president elect. Both parties need a reality check. Neither candidate is fit to be our president. They will both lead us to the same place.