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11-07-2012, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Casey0211
Charles Krauthammer doesn't see any ideological or structural problems with the party. It was just that Obama ran a better campaign. It was all tactical errors, nothing more. Move along. There's nothing to see here.
After months of lying to the voters, the wingnuts are now lying to themselves.
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After four years your beloved Obama BARELY beat a very moderate conservative that many in the GOP didn't support, yet you are here crowing about this victory. Look at the popular vote, does Obama have clear mandate? Does the nation as a whole back him? It was Romney's election to lose and he couldn't take down a president with a dreadful track record. God have mercy on our souls.
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11-07-2012, 01:22 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Brownwood, Tx
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Originally Posted by squidly
What's his excuse going to be for the next four years. Watch the value of the dollar degenerate as Obama and the fed continue quantitative easing, robbing you of your savings. Good job America, your stupidity saddens me greatly.
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What's his excuse gonna be for the next four years? The same as it was the past four. It's Bush's fault. Or his other excuse, the do nothing congress, cuz its damn sure not gonna be his.
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11-07-2012, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chromejunkie
What's his excuse gonna be for the next four years? The same as it was the past four. It's Bush's fault. Or his other excuse, the do nothing congress, cuz its damn sure not gonna be his.
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My Thoughts exactly for he sure don't take responsibility for squat ..
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11-07-2012, 04:50 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Pubs are in trouble. 4 years ago we couldn't elect a war hero over a community organizer in a time of war. This time we couldn't elect a capitalist over a socialist in a time of economic malaise. The country is in deep trouble but it continues to vote for style over substance in national elections.
The President said it best in victory speech: (paraphrasing) "the time for idealism is dead." - Unfortunately, that wasn't the platform the dems ran on, and therefore it wasn't what they won on. America voted for cake, and they're going to be pissed when they finally figure out that there isn't any.
Invest in Smith and Wesson.
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11-07-2012, 05:10 AM
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Not sure where I put it
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I'm not sure exactly where on the charts this will fall as one of the biggest blunders in US history, but I now know I was wrong to underestimate the stupidity and ignorance of the population. Those that voted for Obama can wallow in their misplaced pride all they want, but it the end they will suffer right along side those of us that knew better. It is unfortunate the company we sometimes find ourselves having to keep. The lunatics are truly running the asylum.
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11-07-2012, 05:57 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by DJW
Pubs are in trouble. 4 years ago we couldn't elect a war hero over a community organizer in a time of war. This time we couldn't elect a capitalist over a socialist in a time of economic malaise. The country is in deep trouble but it continues to vote for style over substance in national elections.
The President said it best in victory speech: (paraphrasing) "the time for idealism is dead." - Unfortunately, that wasn't the platform the dems ran on, and therefore it wasn't what they won on. America voted for cake, and they're going to be pissed when they finally figure out that there isn't any.
Invest in Smith and Wesson.
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The pubs have to change some of their policy issues. It doesn't matter who is running against the dems anymore. The minority population is growing and a lot more younger people are voting. I just heard Obama won the womens vote by 11 percent. (I don't know how they know that since your ballot is supposed to be private). The pubs policies just aren't appealing to those demographics and it will only get worse or better, however you look at it. We're not going to go backwards.
Romneys comment about the 47 percent I believe was the nail in his coffin. I personally know a few people who work very hard full time and don't pay much or any federal taxes and they couldn't afford too if they wanted.
Last edited by James; 11-07-2012 at 06:01 AM.
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11-07-2012, 06:15 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East Tennessee
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Originally Posted by squidly
After four years your beloved Obama BARELY beat a very moderate conservative that many in the GOP didn't support, yet you are here crowing about this victory. Look at the popular vote, does Obama have clear mandate? Does the nation as a whole back him? It was Romney's election to lose and he couldn't take down a president with a dreadful track record. God have mercy on our souls.
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Just goes to show that YOUR party can't find a viable candidate, one with some connection to the common man/woman (the majority in our country by the way), a candidate with just an ounce of compassion. Get one to run and I'll vote for him/her.
Edit: spelling
Last edited by compressor#v; 11-07-2012 at 11:02 AM.
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11-07-2012, 06:16 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Michigan
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Well, the fun starts in 54 days.
That's when taxes spike. O-care is steadily being implemented and those costs will rise as the level and quality of coverage declines.
EPA regs in the wings are also slated to begin being implemented early Q-1 and will have considerable impact on affected industries. The cumulative trickle down to consumers will be considerable.
Throw in a couple more rounds of qualitative easing, serving to further devalue our currency, and we're primed for inflation. Dunno how soon, but with nothing supporting our currency, it's unavoidable.
Any overseas crisis will accelerate our fiscal decline because we can't afford a response - and something is sure to develop.
These will be interesting times.
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11-07-2012, 06:17 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2004
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As I predicted, President Obama won in a landslide victory.
http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/re...ml#post2193014
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11-07-2012, 06:33 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJW
Pubs are in trouble. 4 years ago we couldn't elect a war hero over a community organizer in a time of war. This time we couldn't elect a capitalist over a socialist in a time of economic malaise. The country is in deep trouble but it continues to vote for style over substance in national elections.
The President said it best in victory speech: (paraphrasing) "the time for idealism is dead." - Unfortunately, that wasn't the platform the dems ran on, and therefore it wasn't what they won on. America voted for cake, and they're going to be pissed when they finally figure out that there isn't any.
Invest in Smith and Wesson.
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Originally Posted by BOUTYM
I'm not sure exactly where on the charts this will fall as one of the biggest blunders in US history, but I now know I was wrong to underestimate the stupidity and ignorance of the population. Those that voted for Obama can wallow in their misplaced pride all they want, but it the end they will suffer right along side those of us that knew better. It is unfortunate the company we sometimes find ourselves having to keep. The lunatics are truly running the asylum.
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Living in denial is NOT going to avert the impending demise of the GOP if they stay their course. As James eludes to, they have to change some of their policies to get back in touch with reality: less extremist and more centrist.
Of course GOP can choose to go even more extremist and get spanked again in 2016,... even harder.
They have to change.
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11-07-2012, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by thrasher
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OBAMA 54,773,837
ROMNEY 53,716,689
1% = landslide?
How is that?
With all respect and regards to the prior comment regarding "YOUR PARTY", sir I am an independent. I would easily vote for a democrat that would address the important matters in this country. Obama has clearly shown no desire to address these issues and in the past four years of his leadership, or lack thereof, the issues have compounded. You are aware that our current debt equates to $54,000+ per man, woman and child in this country. Yet the stupid ****ing morons continued to vote for Obama and more "FREE" stuff. The United States will fall mightily from grace, thanks to the policies of Barack Obama and pretty much every other administration and congress for the past century. Does that sound partisan to you? Romney was far from an ideal candidate, but clearly the lesser of two evils in this election. I am truly saddened and hurt by the shear stupidity of the citizens of our country.
Now go be proud that YOUR candidate won and rub it in the conservative's faces like a good little team Obama waterboy. And remember this, the path we are on is wrong and you supported continuing down it with reckless abandon. You and your family will suffer the consequences of this decision in the very near future when the nation's economy crumbles due to the fiscal policies put in place by our failed leadership.
Good day sir.
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11-07-2012, 07:01 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fayetteville, NC.
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Originally Posted by Casey0211
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Silly me, I was worried you might act like a adolescent, smug jerk if Obama won
However:
"In this world there are only two tragedies. One is not getting what one wants..........the other is getting it".
- Oscar Wilde
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11-07-2012, 07:13 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sacramento
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Quote:
Originally Posted by squidly
After four years your beloved Obama BARELY beat a very moderate conservative that many in the GOP didn't support, yet you are here crowing about this victory. Look at the popular vote, does Obama have clear mandate? Does the nation as a whole back him? It was Romney's election to lose and he couldn't take down a president with a dreadful track record. God have mercy on our souls.
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Well, winning the presidency and additional Senate seats is mandate enough for me. But of course, it won't be enough for the Hard Right, which I'm sure will do everything it can to stonewall, as it has the last four years. They're the ones who are plunging the GOP into irrelevancy. Yes, Squidly. It was the GOP's election to lose and it lost it because the Grand Old Party is rotten at the base. They probably won't win another presidential election. You can't get past the Republican primaries unless you're certifiable and the USA as a whole isn't buying what these people are selling. The only reason Romney did as well as he did was by shaking the old Etch-a-Sketch.
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11-07-2012, 07:18 AM
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FNG :)
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blountville, TN
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Originally Posted by Fred1369
and, of course, the answer for the Repubs to come back in 2016 is to become more extremist. They were just too darn liberal this time to keep their base.
Karl Rove right now is bitching that Obama won because he had too much money. We all know Karl Rove raises money and does not have to tell you from whence it came.
Rove is complaining that Obama doesn't compromise. Apparently Karl doesn't listen to McConnell or Boehner when they say they will never compromise.
Because Obama won this time with a smaller majority than last time Karl thinks he won't get a 3rd term.
What a douche.
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Not sure that we should feel too confident that the US will still exist as a free nation in 2016 or that voting will still be "tolerated".
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11-07-2012, 07:28 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Crescent City
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The GOP of today and our not too distant past, as is most evident by rabid rightwingnut posts on this forum, is the party of fear and hate.
Get over it, shift gears, and move on already. America will be all the better for it....
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