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Old 11-08-2012, 09:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The Republicans need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...
I think the reality is WE (as in the people) need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...

It's as frighteningly simple as a move toward the center for both parties. Ultra-conservative (live my way or you're wrong) and free-willy liberal (accept my ways and be like me or you're wrong) will never accomplish anything.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think the reality is WE (as in the people) need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...

It's as frighteningly simple as a move toward the center for both parties. Ultra-conservative (live my way or you're wrong) and free-willy liberal (accept my ways and be like me or you're wrong) will never accomplish anything.
Completely agree.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think the reality is WE (as in the people) need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...

It's as frighteningly simple as a move toward the center for both parties. Ultra-conservative (live my way or you're wrong) and free-willy liberal (accept my ways and be like me or you're wrong) will never accomplish anything.

Completely agree.


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Old 11-08-2012, 05:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The Republicans need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...
They lost by a fraction of a percentage in the popular vote, and that after winning the previous 2 terms before the current occupant got there.

I really don't think the wheels are off, and after Obama finishes crashing the ambulance, it's not gonna matter what the pubs think about abortion.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
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They lost by a fraction of a percentage in the popular vote, and that after winning the previous 2 terms before the current occupant got there.

I really don't think the wheels are off, and after Obama finishes crashing the ambulance, it's not gonna matter what the pubs think about abortion.
I disagree. The younger generations seem to be more liberal. That population along with the minority population is growing. The pubs are going to have to do something different to attract more voters.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I disagree. The younger generations seem to be more liberal. That population along with the minority population is growing. The pubs are going to have to do something different to attract more voters.
The younger generation are more uneducated politically speaking. They lack life experience and have no idea of real world economics. They are into feel good politics like helping the poor but fail to understand much of why the the poor are poor. Many of the poor, not all, are in the position they are in because of choices they made themselves and most are not going to change. Many were raised to let the government take care of them! They know how to game the system.

I have no problem coming to the aid of those who are down on their luck and need some help getting back on their feet but I have no pity on those who put themselves in poverty for any number of reasons such as crime, drugs, alcohol, dropping out of school etc as they are not going to help themselves so why should anyone else help them. Sometimes you have to take tough positions. Our economy is being held hostage by these people because they know the government is not going to let them starve especially if children are involved. To far too many a child represents a check from the government to finance their decadent lifestyles. We have the most affluent poor in the world! There was something in the news a few days ago that those on government assistance receive about $60,000.00 in checks, housing, food stamps, Medicaid etc. I know a lot of working couples that barely make that much combined and that is before all the taxes the state and federal government takes from them plus their health insurance. Those on assistance pay no tax on their $60,000.00 in benefits! If we ever expect to do anything about poverty we need to quit subsidizing poverty and demonizing success.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think the reality is WE (as in the people) need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...

It's as frighteningly simple as a move toward the center for both parties. Ultra-conservative (live my way or you're wrong) and free-willy liberal (accept my ways and be like me or you're wrong) will never accomplish anything.
I completely agree, too.

But I can feel the resistance on this thread. Can't you? There's all those welfare queens in South Succotash making $60,000 a year, and the GOP was only off a couple percentage points.

It's too bad.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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That is until they have to pay the bill they are incurring under the progressives, and it will come.


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Old 11-08-2012, 06:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I disagree. The younger generations seem to be more liberal. That population along with the minority population is growing. The pubs are going to have to do something different to attract more voters.
Or they are going to have to get their registered voters to get out and vote. I live in a neighborhood that had 15 Romney signs for every Obama sign. But on three separate occasions startingtwo weeks out, there were Obama campaign volunteers canvassing the neighborhood, motivating folks to vote. Not one time did a Romney campaign volunteer knock on the door or leave campaign literature. I understand that if I was still living in SC but I live in a battleground state and I live in a county that Romney needed to carry in order to be extremely competitive/win.
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I think the reality is WE (as in the people) need to change something or else it will keep going on like this...

It's as frighteningly simple as a move toward the center for both parties. Ultra-conservative (live my way or you're wrong) and free-willy liberal (accept my ways and be like me or you're wrong) will never accomplish anything.
I totally agree as well!!

HiAngle you are right. My wife listened to a co-worker who takes care of the election/media stuff for her work (a NPR local station) and she said that the Dem's were busting their butts to get people to vote and how they were doing all this stuff to keep tract of who was going to vote ect. If the Rep's can't get people to vote then its not going to matter.
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I think they spent too much time trying to campaign to legislate morality. Just drop it and concentrate on the economy one way or another.
All the "moral" people who are against abortion should go down to the clinics and tell the girls they will adopt all the babies. Since 35% of black women have abortions this would be a good way to homogenize the population, all the little black kids being raised in white families and going to white school and churches. Give us 2 generations and there won't be any race problem or affirmative action quota for education or employment.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:37 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Fred, I'm trying to strike a central tone here, but it seems to me that you are not joining in on the love? Am I reading you right?
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:31 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I think all republicans in congress should wait and watch. If the democrats pass a bill to provide amnesty for non-citizens in our country, sit on the side without voting. If democrats introduce a gun control bill, sit on the side without voting.

Senator Feinstein looking to introduce new assault weapons ban.

If democrats want to raise taxes, sit on the side without voting. If the democrats want to continue to make people like Al Gore rich, sit on the side without voting.

Fourteen green-tech firms in which Gore invested received or directly benefited from more than $2.5 billion in loans, grants and tax breaks, part of President Obama’s push to seed the renewable-energy industry with public money. Al Gore reported assets of less than $2 million in 2001. Today, his wealth is estimated at $100 million.

Go along with every bill they want or don't vote against it.
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Or they are going to have to get their registered voters to get out and vote. I live in a neighborhood that had 15 Romney signs for every Obama sign. But on three separate occasions startingtwo weeks out, there were Obama campaign volunteers canvassing the neighborhood, motivating folks to vote. Not one time did a Romney campaign volunteer knock on the door or leave campaign literature. I understand that if I was still living in SC but I live in a battleground state and I live in a county that Romney needed to carry in order to be extremely competitive/win.
I had the same experience. I live in an area of Sacramento that is largely Republican. I received four visits from representatives of the Democratic challenger to Congressman Dan Lungren. No one from Dan's camp came by. Mind you, I'm registered as an independent, so it wasn't a question of Democrats shoring up the base. The result is that Lungren's challenger has a small lead and may very well win once the vote has been recounted.
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