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11-06-2012, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Got to keep in mind that we don't elect the President, the Electorial College does. Granted they are supposed to vote the wishes of the population but that doesn't always happen. I would like to see the Electorial College gotten rid of and go by popular vote since about everything is on computer now anyhow. Even in the small town I live in, we vote on computers.  I just hope we're not so far down a bad road that we can''t return......
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11-06-2012, 02:37 PM
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#62 (permalink)
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: WI
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Originally Posted by dmassey
I would like to see the Electorial College gotten rid of and go by popular vote since about everything is on computer now anyhow. Even in the small town I live in, we vote on computers.  I just hope we're not so far down a bad road that we can''t return......
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Yeah, cause there's no way a computer vote could ever be fraudulent.
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11-06-2012, 03:09 PM
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The reason for the Electoral college is to let all the states have a voice.
If it were only a popular vote, then they would only campaign in the large city's, and the northeast would dictate the winner alone.
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11-06-2012, 04:29 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: May 2010
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Then why not break up the Electoral points into percentages? If a candidate wins 70% of a state, they should only get 70% of the Electoral points for that state. Kind of the way Maine and Nebraska do it, just not a set split of 3 & 1 or 3 & 2. That way the Popular vote would closer resemble the Electoral vote. Plus candidates would have to pay attention to the states with fewer Electoral votes when they can't get 29-55 from just one state.
JMO.
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11-06-2012, 04:54 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by RGRider
Yeah, cause there's no way a computer vote could ever be fraudulent. 
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In New Jersey they can vote using e-mail and they have extended the e-mail voting deadline until this coming Friday. Kind of screwy if you ask me.
Election officials in storm-ravaged New Jersey were so overwhelmed with requests from displaced residents to be able to vote by email that they extended the deadline for electronic voting to Friday.
Thousands of voters who were displaced from their homes and polling districts after superstorm Sandy will be able to email their ballots to their county clerks by 8 p.m. Friday to be counted in the 2012 election, according to a new directive issued by the New Jersey Division of Elections this afternoon.
The change came after clerks were inundated with requests by residents, each of which took staffers more than 15 minutes to complete after comparing the request against a list of registered voters and finishing paperwork, according to an Essex County, N.J., staffer
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jersey...ry?id=17653589
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11-06-2012, 05:06 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Seaford, De
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The first polls have just closed.
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11-06-2012, 05:11 PM
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Live Free or Die
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: NoVA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffytune
The reason for the Electoral college is to let all the states have a voice.
If it were only a popular vote, then they would only campaign in the large city's, and the northeast would dictate the winner alone.
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I hear that all the time and I don't think it's true---- on both accounts. BTW--- California has 55 electoral votes. As it stands, only a handful of states, the battleground states, dictate the winner as many are safe for a respective party.
Fom the electoral college FAQ website
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The founding fathers established the Electoral College in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens. However, the term “electoral college” does not appear in the Constitution. Article II of the Constitution and the 12th Amendment refer to “electors,” but not to the “electoral college.”
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Link. http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...faq.html#whyec
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11-06-2012, 07:03 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Crescent City
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Originally Posted by streetg
With all the issues we hear about with voting machines, why don't the just go oldschool like we do here in NH? Old fashion ballot with little circles to fill in like we did when we were kids with the #2 pencils. Easy to read, simple,hard to fkk up, probably more time consuming to count though.
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I completely agree. I rarely speak in absolutes, but the issues with electronic devices is that they all have bugs either in the hardware, firmware, or software,... and they all can be hacked.
More time consuming to count, for sure,... enlist more volunteers.
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11-06-2012, 07:09 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Crescent City
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Originally Posted by streetg
I just voted here, 15 minutes from leaving my house n getting back.
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Pleasant voting experience here too. 10 minute walk to the polls, no wait, and then 10 minutes back. Nice evening.
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11-06-2012, 08:34 PM
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Seasoned Rider
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spokane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBourquin
Then why not break up the Electoral points into percentages? If a candidate wins 70% of a state, they should only get 70% of the Electoral points for that state. Kind of the way Maine and Nebraska do it, just not a set split of 3 & 1 or 3 & 2. That way the Popular vote would closer resemble the Electoral vote. Plus candidates would have to pay attention to the states with fewer Electoral votes when they can't get 29-55 from just one state.
JMO. 
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