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08-13-2004, 11:34 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Advice from you wonderful women...
This is in part carried over from my roller coaster thread, but I'm not sure if this is an upside or downside... you tell me?
You see I've known this one girl for about 5 or 6 years now. She just got back into town and as usual looked me up just yesterday saying she wants to meet up this Sunday. Now here's a little info on this girl....
First off, she's wicked hot. Let's just say there is a DEFINITE physical attraction here. And apparently this works both ways. Now here's the odd part, her and I are two completely different people. I'm talking opposite poles here. Her dream car, a Mitsubishi Eclipse.... mine? a 1950's Buick chopped top hot rod coupe. Her dream bike? She likes crotchbikes.... but oddly enough she really does like Harleys too so that's a plus. She can't stand violence of any kind. Not even boxing on TV, and hates to watch me work out, even going as far as to complain about it. And oddly enough that's kind of how we met. She's the friend of one of my now ex-girlfriends. Like many women they talk about their old men. That's right guys, if you're just now learning this, it isn't a major newsflash, we're the subject of many conversations. What do they talk about? Oh pretty much the same thing we talk about, including but not limited to SEX and just how good it is.
Now women.... have you ever wondered why your friends keep trying to steal your boyfriend?.... its because when you tell them he's awesome in bed and built in all the right ways they start to realize you've got something they want. So don't be mad at them for your big mouth.
Anyway, this girl was friends with one of my exs, and still has maintained friends with me even though that girl and I are no longer together... umm, read above this chic readily admits this info. When I first met her, she was definitely little miss preppie. And still is really for the most part. One day she showed up because she saw Kristen's car at my house and she entered all crying, but what caught my attention was her eye was swollen pretty bad. Came to find out her boyfriend at the time slapped the sh!t out of her for something or other so naturally I proceeded on over to his place to return the beauty mark....... $550 was my bail on that one. A pretty light fine considering but it did really put a dent in mine and Kristen's relationship. She was tired of calling our bondsman and always thought it was absurd that I have Jim's number in the very front of the rolodex both at the house and the shop.
Long story short, Tina wasn't all that happy with the incident but did leave this putz rather quickly and though she never really thanked me, I can tell she was greatful for standing up, even though I went beyond what she feels was necessary. From then on she's never really kept in a long relationship because she doesn't trust guys. She tells me that this is not so with me. As strange as it may seem she's heard from Kristen that I'm not the kind that raises a finger, or even my voice for that matter to a woman. I can't really explain why I can so easily do this toward other males though. Sure I can get into an arguement with my girl, but I don't like to do the yelling and screaming thing, I just like to talk it out, or if it can't be resolved simply say, "I'm going for a ride, I'll be back later and we'll finish our conversation." I'm honestly really good at saying this as I've said it many times, to many women.
No male is perfect, no woman is perfect however it is these imperfections that make us each flawless.... that is once we realize we can live with them.  I know what a few of my bad habits are and I've worked very hard to change many of them. Some are just not easy to change and might never change really but hopefully will at least tone down quite a bit. I'm talking about my attitude here, hehehehe.
So she's back in town, and is looking me up so she can drop by on Sunday. Now I've already made a few calls (basically just stating "Hey Tina's back what are you doing this Sunday?" to see if we can get some friends together.)... and in a way was given a little 'intel' on the issue. She's already spoken to our mutual friends that she wants, "us" time. As in, her and I time. She's also apparently told them, she'll be at my house on Sunday....
Now here's a little more about her. She's the kind that likes to go out and do things. Which is really cool. She's never been the type to just want to sit around, especially when I keep my place nice, neat, ill lit, and cool. This is my comfortable element when I'm at home. I like cooler temps, she doesn't really like them so much, she's always complained my house is cold hehehe. So from this info I can only contemplate but a small handful of conclusions. Really good thoughts, but thinking realistically, her and I are almost complete opposites on so many levels.
I love walking around in the mountains. She likes to look at the mountains but can't stand living in them which is why she moved to Denver where the night and party life are. Her kind of party, and my kind of party are two different things. She likes these 'rave' things, and dance clubs with music at volumes that you really can't hear what anyone is saying... and besides they're all total strangers and some of them smell like they took a bath in cologne. My kind of party is good folk, good music or even live music, good food and good drink. Horseshoes, billiards, darts, and other fun games to relax, unwind and share some laughs with.
Her idea of hiking is walking around a mall for hours on end looking at the same spaghetti string top in 20 different stores all with similar prices thinking, "Hmmm, I just don't know...." My idea of hiking...... I live up here in the mountains, and the mountains is where I roam. Her idea of shopping, getting $100 and spending it on the Foley's Red Apple sale.... My idea of shopping, getting $100 contemplating those things I absolutely need, making one trip to the destination that has what I need purchasing it (or them if multiple items) figuring out how much of the $100 I've got left so I can either put for gas, food, or maybe allow myself a gift item like a new CD for the shop stereo system. Her idea of racing. Going to Bandimere watching the cars and bikes and then going "Oh my god!" and putting her hands over her eyes when one of the cars or bikes gets a little squirly or crashes.... my idea? Being in the car or on that bike.  Yes she does love the fact I build these creations. She's ever supportive of my shop and is also amazed at how its grown in the past year. Or outgrown I should say... I need a bigger shop.
We don't have even remotely the same tastes in music. Granted I've got a fairly broad range. Sure I like my grueling metal, but I also love blues, hard rock, classic rock, and even rockabilly. I don't really care for rap, and country just isn't very appealing to me. But guess what she likes?.... Well she doesn't really care for country either, but she likes rap and whatever Brittany Spears, Christina Aguillera and things like that are. Though.... Brittany is pretty hot too.
I'm content being Tina's friend. Sure she's perfect eye candy and I can't say I haven't had 'thoughts'. But being realistic I don't see that a relationship with this girl is going to yeild anything but disappointment and frustration due to our differences. I've reached a point in my life where I'd rather keep a friend wonder than lose them altogether over something like a weak relationship. Am I out of tune there?
Do any of you have some insight that I should perhaps consider here? Granted I'm really picky about who I let into my life on that aspect. I consider sex is sex, but involvement takes just as much commitment that I give to my work. My work is tedious, time consuming, but well worth it, and I would expect the same in a relationship.
This girl just thinks I'm the 'world'. I know this because she's told me. And sure it can make a guy feel pretty good that he's the ultimate vision in some chic's eye, but what if she comes to realize all the differences that I see? She likes the bike. And she looks really good on the back of it. She looks even better in my old leather. But the way I look at it, she's got Lamborghini expectations and only getting a rat powered SS Chevelle. Granted its a fast car, it lacks the certain exotic qualities of the other.
So if you've got any insight here, I'd be ever greatful to hear it. Yeah it does sound odd... Badger asking for relationship advice. But hey I'm still single so I'm willing to believe I'm either finding the wrong women or I'm not doing something completely right.
I don't know if Tina will ever understand my belonging with the bros. I don't know if she could handle the fact that I'm vague on the subject when talking about them. Most women can't. But some priorities can't be broken for anything.
Badger
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08-14-2004, 06:17 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Exactly how long have you been awake prior to writting this? Is this one of those post that you write when you go to sleep at midnight wake backup at two and realize you aint going back to sleep and feel like writting something?
If something is destined to happen between you it will and asking for advice wont change anything. Enjoy the sex in the interim!!!
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08-14-2004, 08:41 AM
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FNG :)
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Give it up. Move on. Waaaaayyyy too much analysis for one 'relationship'. Isn't worth the effort.
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Originally Posted by BadgerOctane
This is in part carried over from my roller coaster thread, but I'm not sure if this is an upside or downside... you tell me?
You see I've known this one girl for about 5 or 6 years now. She just got back into town and as usual looked me up just yesterday saying she wants to meet up this Sunday. Now here's a little info on this girl....
First off, she's wicked hot. Let's just say there is a DEFINITE physical attraction here. And apparently this works both ways. Now here's the odd part, her and I are two completely different people. I'm talking opposite poles here. Her dream car, a Mitsubishi Eclipse.... mine? a 1950's Buick chopped top hot rod coupe. Her dream bike? She likes crotchbikes.... but oddly enough she really does like Harleys too so that's a plus. She can't stand violence of any kind. Not even boxing on TV, and hates to watch me work out, even going as far as to complain about it. And oddly enough that's kind of how we met. She's the friend of one of my now ex-girlfriends. Like many women they talk about their old men. That's right guys, if you're just now learning this, it isn't a major newsflash, we're the subject of many conversations. What do they talk about? Oh pretty much the same thing we talk about, including but not limited to SEX and just how good it is.
Now women.... have you ever wondered why your friends keep trying to steal your boyfriend?.... its because when you tell them he's awesome in bed and built in all the right ways they start to realize you've got something they want. So don't be mad at them for your big mouth.
Anyway, this girl was friends with one of my exs, and still has maintained friends with me even though that girl and I are no longer together... umm, read above this chic readily admits this info. When I first met her, she was definitely little miss preppie. And still is really for the most part. One day she showed up because she saw Kristen's car at my house and she entered all crying, but what caught my attention was her eye was swollen pretty bad. Came to find out her boyfriend at the time slapped the sh!t out of her for something or other so naturally I proceeded on over to his place to return the beauty mark....... $550 was my bail on that one. A pretty light fine considering but it did really put a dent in mine and Kristen's relationship. She was tired of calling our bondsman and always thought it was absurd that I have Jim's number in the very front of the rolodex both at the house and the shop.
Long story short, Tina wasn't all that happy with the incident but did leave this putz rather quickly and though she never really thanked me, I can tell she was greatful for standing up, even though I went beyond what she feels was necessary. From then on she's never really kept in a long relationship because she doesn't trust guys. She tells me that this is not so with me. As strange as it may seem she's heard from Kristen that I'm not the kind that raises a finger, or even my voice for that matter to a woman. I can't really explain why I can so easily do this toward other males though. Sure I can get into an arguement with my girl, but I don't like to do the yelling and screaming thing, I just like to talk it out, or if it can't be resolved simply say, "I'm going for a ride, I'll be back later and we'll finish our conversation." I'm honestly really good at saying this as I've said it many times, to many women.
No male is perfect, no woman is perfect however it is these imperfections that make us each flawless.... that is once we realize we can live with them.  I know what a few of my bad habits are and I've worked very hard to change many of them. Some are just not easy to change and might never change really but hopefully will at least tone down quite a bit. I'm talking about my attitude here, hehehehe.
So she's back in town, and is looking me up so she can drop by on Sunday. Now I've already made a few calls (basically just stating "Hey Tina's back what are you doing this Sunday?" to see if we can get some friends together.)... and in a way was given a little 'intel' on the issue. She's already spoken to our mutual friends that she wants, "us" time. As in, her and I time. She's also apparently told them, she'll be at my house on Sunday....
Now here's a little more about her. She's the kind that likes to go out and do things. Which is really cool. She's never been the type to just want to sit around, especially when I keep my place nice, neat, ill lit, and cool. This is my comfortable element when I'm at home. I like cooler temps, she doesn't really like them so much, she's always complained my house is cold hehehe. So from this info I can only contemplate but a small handful of conclusions. Really good thoughts, but thinking realistically, her and I are almost complete opposites on so many levels.
I love walking around in the mountains. She likes to look at the mountains but can't stand living in them which is why she moved to Denver where the night and party life are. Her kind of party, and my kind of party are two different things. She likes these 'rave' things, and dance clubs with music at volumes that you really can't hear what anyone is saying... and besides they're all total strangers and some of them smell like they took a bath in cologne. My kind of party is good folk, good music or even live music, good food and good drink. Horseshoes, billiards, darts, and other fun games to relax, unwind and share some laughs with.
Her idea of hiking is walking around a mall for hours on end looking at the same spaghetti string top in 20 different stores all with similar prices thinking, "Hmmm, I just don't know...." My idea of hiking...... I live up here in the mountains, and the mountains is where I roam. Her idea of shopping, getting $100 and spending it on the Foley's Red Apple sale.... My idea of shopping, getting $100 contemplating those things I absolutely need, making one trip to the destination that has what I need purchasing it (or them if multiple items) figuring out how much of the $100 I've got left so I can either put for gas, food, or maybe allow myself a gift item like a new CD for the shop stereo system. Her idea of racing. Going to Bandimere watching the cars and bikes and then going "Oh my god!" and putting her hands over her eyes when one of the cars or bikes gets a little squirly or crashes.... my idea? Being in the car or on that bike.  Yes she does love the fact I build these creations. She's ever supportive of my shop and is also amazed at how its grown in the past year. Or outgrown I should say... I need a bigger shop.
We don't have even remotely the same tastes in music. Granted I've got a fairly broad range. Sure I like my grueling metal, but I also love blues, hard rock, classic rock, and even rockabilly. I don't really care for rap, and country just isn't very appealing to me. But guess what she likes?.... Well she doesn't really care for country either, but she likes rap and whatever Brittany Spears, Christina Aguillera and things like that are. Though.... Brittany is pretty hot too.
I'm content being Tina's friend. Sure she's perfect eye candy and I can't say I haven't had 'thoughts'. But being realistic I don't see that a relationship with this girl is going to yeild anything but disappointment and frustration due to our differences. I've reached a point in my life where I'd rather keep a friend wonder than lose them altogether over something like a weak relationship. Am I out of tune there?
Do any of you have some insight that I should perhaps consider here? Granted I'm really picky about who I let into my life on that aspect. I consider sex is sex, but involvement takes just as much commitment that I give to my work. My work is tedious, time consuming, but well worth it, and I would expect the same in a relationship.
This girl just thinks I'm the 'world'. I know this because she's told me. And sure it can make a guy feel pretty good that he's the ultimate vision in some chic's eye, but what if she comes to realize all the differences that I see? She likes the bike. And she looks really good on the back of it. She looks even better in my old leather. But the way I look at it, she's got Lamborghini expectations and only getting a rat powered SS Chevelle. Granted its a fast car, it lacks the certain exotic qualities of the other.
So if you've got any insight here, I'd be ever greatful to hear it. Yeah it does sound odd... Badger asking for relationship advice. But hey I'm still single so I'm willing to believe I'm either finding the wrong women or I'm not doing something completely right.
I don't know if Tina will ever understand my belonging with the bros. I don't know if she could handle the fact that I'm vague on the subject when talking about them. Most women can't. But some priorities can't be broken for anything.
Badger
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08-14-2004, 11:35 AM
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Smuggler
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Badger,
My .02 but she seems to be right in front of you.
Code Name begins with an L ends in what we are Riders. :p :p
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08-14-2004, 02:20 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bailey, Colorado
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Originally Posted by Badapple
Exactly how long have you been awake prior to writting this? Is this one of those post that you write when you go to sleep at midnight wake backup at two and realize you aint going back to sleep and feel like writting something?
If something is destined to happen between you it will and asking for advice wont change anything. Enjoy the sex in the interim!!!
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What are you just trolling around following every post I make or what? If you really must know, I get about 4 to 5 hours of sleep on average. That isn't much compared to some and it has caused a little havoc in past relationships. She wakes up, and I'm not there. My day begins with my workout routine, then I fix myself some breakfast and maybe draw some sketches here and there. About 8 am or so I proceed to the shop and work on what I've got going there. Between noon and 1pm, I find time to grab lunch and surf the forums while checking e-mail. Hence what I'm doing right this very moment. After that I go back to work and usually wind down by 6 or 7pm depending on exactly what's going on. I've been known to stay later if necessary but I never demand my crew work the same hours I do. They come and go as they please and get paid for their time. Simple but effective ethic.
When I get home I make my return phone calls, but make sure not to exceed this past 9pm as most people are trying to sleep. Sometimes I go and continue my workout routine by hitting the heavy bag again for a while, other times I practice with the blades, or even play my guitar and write some songs. Somewhere between midnight and 1pm I decide its time for some rest. Only to wake up between 5:30 and 6 and repeat this process.
Yes I've found time for women before, but this kind of activity bothers some. I do a great deal of thinking and spend a lot of time pondering 10 to 30 things at once. I type really fast probably due to the fact I've played guitar for so many years and I don't have a dominant hand. I can use either my right or left hand for just about any task including but not limited to writing. Shooting is the same way and I often practice with both .45s at once. Not having a dominant hand requires more brain activity and some believe that is my reason for sleeping only 4 to 5 hours on average.
So there you have it. I don't intentionally set out to write novels, I just type fast and can say many things in a matter of minutes. Fukk you very much.
GirlGeekDEL, as above, this is just how my brain works. All the analysis you see took place in my head in a matter of seconds hehehehe. Its just quite a bit to read when you see it sprawled out in text.
Rick, you my friend know more to my life than many others here. You know how many issues I have to juggle with on somewhat of a daily basis and you know it isn't at all easy but its getting easier as things get adjusted. The woman you speak of is indeed very dear to me. I don't know what I'd do without her because she always seems to set me back into balance, and takes the time to make sure I allow my body time to repair itself from the stresses I put it through hehehe. We too are different people though, and live in different lifestyles. I couldn't trade her in for the world as I've come to know her as a sister, and someone I'd give my life for if it were necessary to do so. I'm a patient man, I'll see what the future brings.
Badger
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08-14-2004, 03:23 PM
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IronButt
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Badger....more fish in the pond, move on.
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08-14-2004, 03:55 PM
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Smuggler
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Hey Chris,
Sometimes, after all the smoke has cleared you find out they were there all along. You to my friend have my life pretty well pegged.
Married to one of the prettiest girls in the world did nothing but cost me half of my life, literally.
Many years later, the one that listened to me ***** the most, my always there plain jane best friend, turned out as you know to be the prettiest of all. (Inside and out.) Still my best friend and my wife for 13 happy years.
Don't sweat the small stuff old man, take it as it comes no matter how it turns out. Lifes all to short and you my friend are way to young to feel so old.
Enjoy Life for the simplest of things. How about that Dew smell of fresh cut grass that you smell as your riding through the hills at dusk, those warm and cold pockets of air. Does any of the smells bring you back to a childhood day. One of amazement and wonder.
The pressures of life tend to cause us to lose site of that. Disipline your mind the same way you do your body my friend and watch how things seem to always turn around or at least turn out for the better.
Lecture Over!!!  Take it slow and easy Badger!
Rick
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08-14-2004, 07:13 PM
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Wicked!
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Badger, I haven't crossed your path for a while! I read your in a delima (sorry, had a few to drink  ). They say opposites attract. Now, I'm no relationship expert but I do feel your really moved by this chic. I think it's a good thing. Try it out see where it leads. You only live once and this coud be the "one". You've really thought this through. Why take the time, if you don't think it will work. I think you want it to work, or you wouldn't have posted. Good luck,
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08-16-2004, 08:25 AM
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Jersey Girl, Forever
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Badger,
My .02 but she seems to be right in front of you.
Code Name begins with an L ends in what we are Riders. :p :p
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BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
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08-16-2004, 08:59 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2003
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I Rode Mine-Little & Big Sturgis/Milwaukee/Tomahawk/Branson/Pig Trail/Push Mountain/Mt. Nebo/Toothpick/AR7/AR21/ Skyline/BRP/Cherohala/The Dragon/Around Lake Michigan 1000 miles in 21 Hrs. 2004
Bree
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What a long strange trip it's been! UNFCKNBLVBLE!
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08-18-2004, 05:48 PM
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not to be taken seriously
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mile high asskickin club...try that in my town pal...
its all fun and games till someone gets hurt...then its one of americas funniest hime videos...
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08-18-2004, 06:15 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2001
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There are a lot of lookers out there.
I suppose a man has two choices in life.
One can be true to his heart or he can be true to his lust. There are of course times when one can be true to both.
I have been married about as long as you have taken breath. Along the way, it is normal to wonder and sometimes wander.
But for me, the heart is the keeper.
Tonight the Moon is in a Waxing Crescent, 8% illuminated. That is 8 x the life you have chosen. Go outside and look at it my friend. You'll know what to do.
The above may be cryptic to some, and that is a good thing. To the friends you have made here, it is clear.
Regards
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08-19-2004, 07:34 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Damn! It sure got quiet!
Here, let's add some music! Some GOOD OLD TIME STUFF!
http://www.b-unique.net/music/memory...y%20Sledge.wav
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08-19-2004, 07:40 PM
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IronButt
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08-19-2004, 08:30 PM
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IronButt
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Hey Badger........I missed everything you said after "she is wicked hot".........
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