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03-31-2008, 12:32 PM
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FNG :)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: oklahoma
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cocked and locked?
I happen to live in an area where gun carry is not uncommon or frowned upon, most of the surrounding states from Mexico to the
Canada line permit carry if permitted in any of the states along
that line or surrounding. SO, my favored handgun is a browning hi-power clone (FM-detective model)...a 9mm, single action that fits the hand like a warm woman! BUT, is single action...in a holster it has a hammer block..it also has a firing pin block-type stafety system. For those who carry a pistol on their bike rides..any thoughts on a cocked and locked carry of a single action pistol? Anybody ever had an accidental discharge with a cocked and locked SA on a bike in a crash or whatever? thanks, bob.
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04-01-2008, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Virginia
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I have been carrying a single action 1911 for the last 12 years off duty...haven't been down on a scooter while wearing it (thankfully my crash was 14 years ago!), but I have never had an unintentional discharge with it.
The 1911 design is inherently safe. I realize the hipowers are safe pistols as well, but without the grip safety, I would be a little hesitant to carry it cocked/locked. To each their own.
I would think that that only concern that would be had with going down with a cocked and locked pistol would be if during the course of the crash, the safety is knocked to the off position, and some piece of you,your clothing or scoot pushes the trigger rearward......lots of stuff would have to happen, but you never know.
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04-01-2008, 12:01 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: west deptford nj
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I had a small spill on a quad 2 years back during hunting. I have a Kimber 1911 and it was c&l when i crashed. Gun gave me a good bruise on my hip and it needed a really good cleaning to get the grass and mud off it but no dicharge!
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04-05-2008, 05:16 PM
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FNG :)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: oklahoma
Posts: 21
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thanks
thanks for the information...
think my pistol is
going with me into the Big Bend
area then.
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04-05-2008, 06:54 PM
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mooooving out!
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Location: so ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tackleberry1145
I have been carrying a single action 1911 for the last 12 years off duty...haven't been down on a scooter while wearing it (thankfully my crash was 14 years ago!), but I have never had an unintentional discharge with it.
The 1911 design is inherently safe. I realize the hipowers are safe pistols as well, but without the grip safety, I would be a little hesitant to carry it cocked/locked. To each their own.
I would think that that only concern that would be had with going down with a cocked and locked pistol would be if during the course of the crash, the safety is knocked to the off position, and some piece of you,your clothing or scoot pushes the trigger rearward......lots of stuff would have to happen, but you never know.
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Are you speaking about Hi-Point pistols?
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04-12-2008, 09:29 PM
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Location: St Paul, MN
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I carry a Wilson Combat Protector...Cocked and Locked of course. I would be no more worried about my 1911 accidentally firing than other other type of pistol.
In fact, I would be more concerned about one of my Glocks as only the trigger needs to be pulled before it will fire. My 1911 has to have the trigger pulled AND the safety off AND the grip safety depressed before the gun will fire.
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03-01-2009, 08:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vernon, Vermont
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I carry a .357 magnum snub nosed revolver(6 shot), I have never gone down with it but I know that if I have it cocked it only takes a very small nudging to pull the trigger so I don't ride with it cocked. It is a double action revolver, only takes a smidge of a second to pull the trigger even double action so i don't see the need. I used to carry a Ruger 45Semi Auto, that was always locked and cocked when I had it on me. Never had an accidental discharge with that one either though.
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03-01-2009, 08:38 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Louisiana
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Ruger new model Super Blackhawk 44 mag. Single action wheel gun. It has a transfer bar that blocks the hammer until you pull the hammer back manually. You could beat the hammer with a rock and not discharge the weapon. In the event that you need to use it, it is a natural action to pull it and cock it all in one fluid motion. With a 7 3/4" pipe you can hit your target the first time and won't need a second shot. Usually the sight of that hand cannon is enough to prevent the need for the first shot anyway.
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03-02-2009, 12:46 PM
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Phemus
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pensacola, FL
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You can hammer nails with a 1911 and then throw it across the street...it won't discharge.
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03-02-2009, 01:49 PM
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FOG
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonRider
I carry a .357 magnum snub nosed revolver(6 shot), I have never gone down with it but I know that if I have it cocked it only takes a very small nudging to pull the trigger so I don't ride with it cocked. It is a double action revolver, only takes a smidge of a second to pull the trigger even double action so i don't see the need.
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Nobody ever carries a revolver cocked....that's well beyond dangerous.
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03-02-2009, 01:52 PM
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FOG
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Quote:
Originally Posted by route66paul
Are you speaking about Hi-Point pistols?
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I believe he's referring to a Browning Hi Power
http://www.browning.com/products/cat...51&type_id=003
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03-02-2009, 02:27 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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I carry a Colt Combat Commander in the C&L position and have never had the first problem with AD. Slid 25 yards on my but after a fall with it. And the only thing that happened was the wood grips got chewed a little bit.
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03-02-2009, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: syracuse ny
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you guys are all lucky, you cant carry at all here. i mean they just laugh at you when you go to fill out the paperwork...
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03-02-2009, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: syracuse ny
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DragonRider
I carry a .357 magnum snub nosed revolver(6 shot), I have never gone down with it but I know that if I have it cocked it only takes a very small nudging to pull the trigger so I don't ride with it cocked. It is a double action revolver, only takes a smidge of a second to pull the trigger even double action so i don't see the need. I used to carry a Ruger 45Semi Auto, that was always locked and cocked when I had it on me. Never had an accidental discharge with that one either though.
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357... now theres a man... thats what i would carry if you could even get a pistol permit..
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03-02-2009, 07:40 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: MI
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I do like my 2" 45 Long Colt Taurus titanium ported revolver with silver tip bullets - the shiny silver tips can be seen very nicely while looking toward the barrel and it's very light weight. Now rag on me for owning a Taurus.
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