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Old 08-08-2011, 04:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rear fender seat nut

The seat nut on on the rear fender loosened on my 03 FLHR and the nut with the retaining clip wobbled around to the point where the hole in the fender is damaged. I am constantly breaking the retaining clips and the problem is getting worse.

I was thinking about having a nut welded but then I'll have to repaint. Anyone else have this happen and have a suggestion for a good fix?
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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try something like this, you can form them with screw pressure if you are careful and not use a tool
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

or if you want to buy the tool
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Nitram.
That looks like it will do the job. Do you know anyone who has used these in this application? I will just have to measure and make sure the diameter will be okay.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know people that have used them on other bikes for fairing mounts.
Go to McMaster Carr on line they have a wider slection.
They have good strength and if you ever bugger up a thread you can always drill it off

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Old 08-08-2011, 07:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks again. I occasionally order from Mcmaster for work. I'll check with them.
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You might try something like JB Weld it works pretty well if everything is clean and given time to set properly. Never understood those cheap fender nuts myself. Cheesy set up to me.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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try something like this, you can form them with screw pressure if you are careful and not use a tool
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

or if you want to buy the tool
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product
Those are nice little units,,,good to know about them,,,good applications. Thanks for posting that.
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A few years ago my seat nut hole had enlarged and wouldn't hold the insert anymore. I mixed up some good epoxy and put a bead around the insert and pushed it into the fender hole. It has held for years. I do drill out my seat mounts so they fit around the insert and not on top of it.
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I took a 1/4" nut which is captive to the washer. Removed the paint on the bottom side of the fender with an 1.5" sanding disc. Once I had it down to bare metal I coated the 2 mating surfaces (fender & washer) with JB Weld, centred the nut over the hole & let it cure. I then put another layer over the washer to the fender. It self levels so all I had to do was flash it in with some paint. It's still there & that was over 5 years ago.

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Old 09-14-2011, 09:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Just an update for anyone else who has this same problem. I stopped by Fastenal to buy the pop nuts and the installation tool. Fastenal wanted over $200 for it! I figured I would just order from the link Nitram posted. A couple of days later I happened to be in my local Menards and stumbled across thevsame tool for only $14.99 and they had a package of pop nuts for $3.00. It worked perfectly. I did have to slip the pop nut through a chrome washerbfirst because the hole in the fender was egged out a little. It makes for an extremely sturdy repair!

Thanks agin for steering me in the right direction Nitram. Thanks to everyone else for their suggestions as well. What a great forum!
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sounds like you got all fixed up, Pipedoc. I was going to suggest google on "rivnuts". Very similar to the popnuts I suppose.

My Aprilia is chock full of Rivnuts. Very sturdy and reliable IF THEY ARE SET RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!! Argh!

I ended up buying the tool and extra rivnuts. The tool I have has a threaded stud and a T handle that you tighten down on...as you tighten it draws up the "rivet" portion of the nut and expands it. Does a good job...tool was $100 bucks though...I like tools...used it twice.

For future, some guys have been successful getting a bolt of correct diameter and thread, stacking washers on the bolt and using a wrench to tighten it. I never could do this: the rivnut face would spin against the washers and not tighten...

Anywhoo...this reply was completely useless since you fixed the problem already. I did up my post count, though.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Mine broke years ago, went to my indy and they sold me an aftermarket replacement kit that was like 10-20 bucks and much more secure than the original HD or mustang kit. It has a nice chrome allen bolt, I remove the rear pad and re-install it all the time and it is still very solid. Sorry, I wish I remembered the brand name. I did a quick search and couldn't find one.

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Old 09-14-2011, 10:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Rivnuts and pop nuts seem to be the same thing from the pictures I was just looking at on Google. The tool Menards has for $14.99 is the one that resembles a regular rivet gun/pliers.
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