SE 255 & SE pro Super Tuner

[AsphaltJunkie]

Hey Dudes,
What do ya'll think of this setup?
My cousin lives in NYC and has an '08 RK. I believe the dealer recommended the SE 255 With the SE Pro Super Tuner. He needs to upgrade the A/C but what does anyone think o' that setup.
Thanks.
Any help appreciated.

[robby dmax]

Originally Posted by AsphaltJunkie

Hey Dudes,
What do ya'll think of this setup?
My cousin lives in NYC and has an '08 RK. I believe the dealer recommended the SE 255 With the SE Pro Super Tuner. He needs to upgrade the A/C but what does anyone think o' that setup.
Thanks.
Any help appreciated.

have him call scott at hillside first!!!!!!!!!!

[msocko3]

Nothing wrong with the 255 cams except they do quit around 4,500 rpm. Depending on what he is looking to accomplish he might be better served talking to someone other than the dealer. Like robby dmax said, call Scott at Hillside and tell him what your looking for and your budget.

[iclick]

Originally Posted by AsphaltJunkie

Hey Dudes,
What do ya'll think of this setup?
My cousin lives in NYC and has an '08 RK. I believe the dealer recommended the SE 255 With the SE Pro Super Tuner. He needs to upgrade the A/C but what does anyone think o' that setup.
Thanks.
Any help appreciated.

Excellent cam choice for heavy baggers if you're interested in increasing low-end and midrange torque and don't consider peak-HP a high priority. They are bolt-in for TC96 engines and with their early intake-valve close will not hamper extreme low-end torque with stock compression, which may be the only cam set that can make that claim. If you place a high value on peak HP and often spend time above 5k RPMs this probably isn't your best choice.

I installed these in my '07 SG and they are exactly what I was looking for. I rarely exceed 4k RPM and want the power where I ride, which is generally 2000-4000rpm. If that is your goal, this may be your best option. What makes them more attractive is that you can find these used as CVO pulls or new from Stage II kits for $100-150 on Ebay. You can DIY and come it at $200-300 including all necessary parts. I did it for $285 including Timkin inner bearings, a puller/installer tool, and the HD cam-install kit--but with some creative cost-cutting you could get the price at around $200. It is a better idea to select the o-rings and gaskets needed rather than buying the cam-install kit, which has many parts included that are unneeded.

I did a write-up on my cam job here.

[AsphaltJunkie]

Thanks for the input guys. Once again, you are all awesome!
On last question tough. What kind of overlap does the 255's have? Does it help in reducing cylinder temp like the 204's did on my Dyna?
Thanks in advance.
W

[strokerjlk]

Originally Posted by AsphaltJunkie

Thanks for the input guys. Once again, you are all awesome!
On last question tough. What kind of overlap does the 255's have? Does it help in reducing cylinder temp like the 204's did on my Dyna?
Thanks in advance.
W

the 255's have 13 deg of overlap vs the 204's of 30 deg.
the 255's are not as effective at reducing temps.
has he ridden yours with the 204's? if you can get him to ride yours and one with the 255's he will choose the 204's
you still stateside

[AsphaltJunkie]

Hello My Friend,
Yep, still here but getting close.
The dealer is talking him into that set-up, and he rides differently with that RK than I do. (He's frequently two up with Mama) I tried to talk him into everything I have, PC III & the 204 but it came down to me telling him I'd ask.
Any recommendations?
BTW, the dealer is going to do the work for him.

[strokerjlk]

Originally Posted by AsphaltJunkie

Hello My Friend,
Yep, still here but getting close.
The dealer is talking him into that set-up, and he rides differently with that RK than I do. (He's frequently two up with Mama) I tried to talk him into everything I have, PC III & the 204 but it came down to me telling him I'd ask.
Any recommendations?
BTW, the dealer is going to do the work for him.

might be the way to go then.

[sublime]

Talk him in to going to 103" with 10:1 compression and the Andrews 54 or Woods 6. With a good intake, 2 into 1 exhaust (D&D, Rinehart), TTS Mastertune and a proper tune this will give him a whole new bike to ride.

[iclick]

Originally Posted by AsphaltJunkie

Hello My Friend,
Yep, still here but getting close.
The dealer is talking him into that set-up, and he rides differently with that RK than I do. (He's frequently two up with Mama) I tried to talk him into everything I have, PC III & the 204 but it came down to me telling him I'd ask.
Any recommendations?
BTW, the dealer is going to do the work for him.

The 204's will hurt low-end performance somewhat in an otherwise stock engine, if that is important to him. If he rides between 2-4k most of the time the 255's will serve well, but if peak-HP numbers above 5k RPM are important this is not the best cam choice since it is a low-end torque cam.

I have the 255's in an otherwise-stock TC96 along with PCV-AT, mufflers, and AC. I didn't notice any changes in oil temps over stock, and ETIMS almost never kicks in even in summer traffic.

[bigbluff]

I have the SE255 in my 103 inch '09. I'm really pleased with it.

I had the Andrews TW21 in my 95 inch '03 before. Very similar characteristics between these two cams. They both pull very well from 2k to 4500 RPM. I ride two up most of the time with a ton of stuff in/on the tourpack and bags. These cams perform VERY well for that environment. And you can take full advantage of these two cams without spending any money on head porting.

When you start getting cams with later intake valve closings and more overlap, you start costing yourself torque at lower RPMs. You can compensate for this by raising the compression. Also, to take advantage of higher RPM torque/horsepower potentian of the higher overlap cams, you will need to spend the money on head porting and enlarging of valves. It starts to get expensive.

[connector]

Originally Posted by bigbluff

I have the SE255 in my 103 inch '09. I'm really pleased with it.

I had the Andrews TW21 in my 95 inch '03 before. Very similar characteristics between these two cams. They both pull very well from 2k to 4500 RPM. I ride two up most of the time with a ton of stuff in/on the tourpack and bags. These cams perform VERY well for that environment. And you can take full advantage of these two cams without spending any money on head porting.

When you start getting cams with later intake valve closings and more overlap, you start costing yourself torque at lower RPMs. You can compensate for this by raising the compression. Also, to take advantage of higher RPM torque/horsepower potentian of the higher overlap cams, you will need to spend the money on head porting and enlarging of valves. It starts to get expensive.

I have been trying to read as much as i can on this build (103 -255) can you say with the 103 it has spread the power around little higher 5500rpm?

[strokerjlk]

Originally Posted by connector

I have been trying to read as much as i can on this build (103 -255) can you say with the 103 it has spread the power around little higher 5500rpm?

No not really better off shifting before 5500 rpm because hp and tq. has fell off so much it wont do ya any good reving past 5000 rpm. makes more noise though LOL.

The 204's will hurt low-end performance somewhat in an otherwise stock engine

true statement ....only if ya lug around at 2000 rpm all day.
cruise at 2500 rpm and up and what a diff. asphalt junkie already knows this though as he is running 204's

[HarleyComforts]

Pretty good info here on 255's. I've got them w/ cnc heads 10.5-1 pistons and se tuner and true duals. Flatten out at top end..low end torque is just ok. I did not do the build, but if I could I'd do the 204's. btw I have 95 build on 04 rg.

[ceraaa42]

When I feel it start to flatten a bit, I just shift up and it starts pulling hard again. A great cruiser heavy bike set up, and affordable.

If you haven't read my ride report it's in my signature line.