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Old 02-22-2011, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Vance & Hines exhaust install

I just purchase some used Vance & Hines Bigshots. I have not done an exhaust on a Harley before. They always had it done prior to my purchasing. I have done several dirt bikes. My question is should there be a header clamp built onto the pipes that clamps the pipe & gasket to the cylinder? Looks like there is just a raised ridge. Not sure how this works. I'm a little concerned. If I bought an exhaust with missing hardware that won't work. I wasted money. Please help!
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I just purchase some used Vance & Hines Bigshots. I have not done an exhaust on a Harley before. They always had it done prior to my purchasing. I have done several dirt bikes. My question is should there be a header clamp built onto the pipes that clamps the pipe & gasket to the cylinder? Looks like there is just a raised ridge. Not sure how this works. I'm a little concerned. If I bought an exhaust with missing hardware that won't work. I wasted money. Please help!
Use the existing clamp and ring from the exhaust that is on the bike (assuming it has one). You should get new gaskets.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do the pipes line up the way they should?
Header clamps, Use the old ones...Seriously.
I always do my own work on my 2008 FXDF and found that there is room to play,(little bitty moves made with a large screwdriver)
The Vance&Hines I put on used no extra gaskets or bushings although the directions said they should be added if needed. And there were no extra header clamps!!!
I asked the parts guy at the Harley shop if he had the exaust gaskets and he said he had some back there...somewhere.

Bolt them on and start it up.
If its blowing exhaust out the "seal" you might need a gasket.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks. Sounds like somehow I can reuse the header clamps. I'll figure it all out when I pull them off. Will post before and after pics soon. The bike comes home tomorrow. Looking forward to customizing it.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I had to take reuse the stock header flanges on my V&H. They dont come with new ones. Since I had the exhaust off I went to the local HD and bought new gaskets.
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While brand new pipes will come with new gaskets, they don't come with clamps, you have to take the ones off the stock pipes. I installed about a bajillion of these (okay, just seems that way) when I was in a shop.

We usually did them on very new bikes, we most often would just leave the previous gaskets in the heads as they were still good.
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There is a large circlip that keeps the clamp from slipping off the end of the pipe. These can be a minor pain in the a$s to remove without the tool but I've managed to do it many times without.
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There is a large circlip that keeps the clamp from slipping off the end of the pipe. These can be a minor pain in the a$s to remove without the tool but I've managed to do it many times without.
I had a hard time to do it using the official tool. And I was a tech! LOL

The trick I learned was to grab one end with a set of vice-grips and lock the vice-grips down. Hold the other end of the circlip with your thumb, pressed up against the flange (mechanics gloves help with this). Push back and up with the vice grips, and they'll come off very easy.

Install on to other pipes the same way (remember to put the clamp on first).
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Cheap piston ring installer tool works great.
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I had a hard time to do it using the official tool. And I was a tech! LOL

The trick I learned was to grab one end with a set of vice-grips and lock the vice-grips down. Hold the other end of the circlip with your thumb, pressed up against the flange (mechanics gloves help with this). Push back and up with the vice grips, and they'll come off very easy.

Install on to other pipes the same way (remember to put the clamp on first).
I will put that method to the test in the next month or so, new Short Shots coming for the FXWG. Thanks.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Use Craftsman 47386....

I put the Big Radius pipes on my Fat Boy a few years ago and these pliers worked great. As I recall the instructions for the V&H pipes called for removing the circlip from the stock pipes and putting them on the new V&H pipes. They were relatively inexpensive pliers and while I'm not anywhere near a tech, these pliers made the job go so smooth I was ready to hang the sign outside the garage looking for more work, ha ha!!
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