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Old 11-14-2012, 02:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Looks like pretty short shocks already. What do you mean when you say it will only drop it a half inch or so from the factory?

Shouldn't your stock shocks be 13"-13.5"?

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Early year FXR's had the straighter 12.5" rear shocks OEM, which mine are. They sag down to 11.5" with the weight of the bike on it eye-to-eye. My new progressive shacks are 11.5", but given they are wound progressively AND I got the Heavy Duty versions, I am hoping they will sag from 11.5" to 11" and only drop my butt .5" from the stock shocks at 11.5" (sagged).
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Here you can see how low mine sits. what is your inseam?

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Old 11-14-2012, 05:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Early year FXR's had the straighter 12.5" rear shocks OEM, which mine are. They sag down to 11.5" with the weight of the bike on it eye-to-eye. My new progressive shacks are 11.5", but given they are wound progressively AND I got the Heavy Duty versions, I am hoping they will sag from 11.5" to 11" and only drop my butt .5" from the stock shocks at 11.5" (sagged).
I'm still having a hard time believing your shocks are stock. Unless the picture is fooling me, they look shorter than stock. Remember your bike was called the Tall Glide because of the longer suspension.

Here is a picture of a 1985 FXRS-SP's rear shocks. I Googled 1985 FXRS-SP...all images show shocks like these.

Does anyone have a list of all FXR shock lengths by year and model? ( I looked on Progressive and Works charts and they don't completely match )

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Old 11-14-2012, 06:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm still having a hard time believing your shocks are stock. Unless the picture is fooling me, they look shorter than stock. Remember your bike was called the Tall Glide because of the longer suspension.

Here is a picture of a 1985 FXRS-SP's rear shocks. I Googled 1985 FXRS-SP...all images show shocks like these.

Does anyone have a list of all FXR shock lengths by year and model? ( I looked on Progressive and Works charts and they don't completely match )

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That picture is the wrong shock for that scooter. That shock would be for a scooter like a FXRS-C with forward mounted shocks.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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That picture is the wrong shock for that scooter. That shock would be for a scooter like a FXRS-C with forward mounted shocks.
Which picture? Krowbar's shocks are wrong, or the picture of the red bike that I sent?

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Old 11-15-2012, 08:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Which picture? Krowbar's shocks are wrong, or the picture of the red bike that I sent?

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The one you posted BigPeet.

I can almost read the tread depth on top of the tire the fender is so high.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The one you posted BigPeet.

I can almost read the tread depth on top of the tire the fender is so high.
You're right, you can. How about this one...looks just as high to me. This is a Sep. 1984 Cycle Magazine road test. This obviously was 2 years before the forward mounted shocks. Just for giggles I counted the windings on the shocks of both bikes and they were the same.

So what do you think of the shocks on Krowbar's bike, stock or shorter? I don't remember any FXR's with covers on the bottom, although I know you can buy the covers aftermarket.

I still think the red bike has stock shocks and Krowbar's are lowered.

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Old 11-15-2012, 02:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Mine very well could have been lowered. ****, The front fork tubes were 2" over depending on which bike. I know the straighter shocks were 12.5" inches stock, according to many resources and went to the 13.5 with the forward leaning 87+ shocks. Mine measures 11.5" WITH the weight of the bike. Not sure if they would really sag a whole inch, but they may be 27 years old. haha

I will be able to measure them with no weight of the bike after my new ones come in. The shocks on it now do look very OEM though. I think some bieks did come with the covers too. I'm learning, slowly but surely.

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Old 11-15-2012, 02:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Here's a pic of an 85 FXRS that has those absurd long shocks. I am certain, according to my VIN, that my bike is an FXRS. But and not sold on that fact it's an FXRS-SP. Some resources say the SP wasn't even out in 85 and My bike could have easily been converted to the dual disk set up to classify it as an SP.

http://www.hotbikeweb.com/features/1.../photo_07.html
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:40 PM   #25 (permalink)
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That's not an '85...it's a Shovelhead. But look how long the shocks are compared to yours. I have magazine road tests for most years of the FXR. The only shocks with bottom covers are 1999-2000. Harley put them on a lot of bikes from at least the '70's on up, but I haven't seen them on a stock FXR till 1999.

I don't think the weight of the bike will lower them 1". Now if I was sitting on it they might be 10.5".

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Old 11-15-2012, 02:49 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Here you can see how low mine sits. what is your inseam?
How do I measure the inseam? haha also, what are the heights of your rear shocks (11"?) and your front forks (23 1/4"?)?

Beautiful bike by the way.

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You're right, you can. How about this one...looks just as high to me. This is a Sep. 1984 Cycle Magazine road test. This obviously was 2 years before the forward mounted shocks. Just for giggles I counted the windings on the shocks of both bikes and they were the same.

So what do you think of the shocks on Krowbar's bike, stock or shorter? I don't remember any FXR's with covers on the bottom, although I know you can buy the covers aftermarket.

I still think the red bike has stock shocks and Krowbar's are lowered.

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You can't count the turns on the spring, the same spring can be used on shocks of different length. Been there and done that, more than once. Back in the day, that's how you got stiff shocks. Long springs on short tubes.
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Krowbars scooter has the same rear shocks as my 84 FXRS. But his forks are way long for an FXRS. In 84 FXRS's were also Low Riders. But just exactly what constituted a low Rider seemed to change from year to year.

According to the books I have all 84-86 FXRS scooters had the shorter 54502-84 shocks and 85-86 FXRP and T's had the long 54492-85 shocks. The 84 T's having air shocks. So any pictures of 84's with long spring shocks are to be examined with a grain of salt.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
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You can't count the turns on the spring, the same spring can be used on shocks of different length. Been there and done that, more than once. Back in the day, that's how you got stiff shocks. Long springs on short tubes.
I'm sure having a hard time convincing you! Instead of picking apart the posts, why don't you look at the pictures?

I'll try it again.

1. Do you think Krowbar's shocks are 1985 OEM?
2. Do you think my picture of the shocks on the red bike don't look like the the same length that is on the bike in the magazine article?
(Please don't tell me you need a ruler to measure them.)
3. So because your shocks on your '84 look like Krowbars you think yours are stock also?

Let me quote from the article I cited: " In 1984 the FXRS was reborn as the Low Glide. It lost a disc up front, and was shortened at both ends to haul the Tall Glide's saddle down to a profitable altitude. Fork tubes were cut two inches with no loss in front axle movement, and a pair of Showa shocks with shorter bodies were fitted to the swing arm". That's your 1984!

Now here is a quote in the same Sept '84 article. "The '85 Low Glide is an elegant fusion of old and new pieces: Now the 'pogo stick' bike comes with large-rotor triple discs and the long-travel suspension of the '82 Super Glide II mated to its Evolution engine, wet clutch and belt final drive.

I'd sure like your answer on the 3 questions before commenting on the rest of the post.

By the way the heading on the article is: "HARLEY-DAVIDSON LOW GLIDE FXRS".

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Pete ..... I'm looking at the same article that your quote came from.
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