Assault weapons ban? Think about it

[YankeeBob]

An extremely well written article on banning "assault weapons". Written with facts and reasonable thought. And from the left!! Whoda thunk it?
I for one, believe a ban is the wrong direction. I support criminal background checks and perhaps even waiting periods.
Read. Comprehend.
http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/...-ill-tell-you/

[MadCity]

Originally posted by YankeeBob
I support criminal background checks and perhaps even waiting periods.

I haven't read the article yet, so I cannot comment on it. But I, too, support criminal background checks and waiting periods. And I'm not anti-gun (I own nine of my own: pistols, revolvers, shotguns and one rifle). But I do believe in closing the gun-show loophole. I've thought about selling some of my guns, but I wouldn't sell any gun I own to someone who I didn't know or whose background I couldn't check. But there's no mechanism to do that unless you're an FFL holder. I think private citizens should be able to do background checks. And, no, I'm not looking to take away anybody's guns. I just don't want them falling into the wrong hands. I'm sure I'll take heat for this, but I don't care.

[choochmalooch]

Originally Posted by MadCity

But I, too, support criminal background checks and waiting periods. And I'm not anti-gun (I own nine of my own: pistols, revolvers, shotguns and one rifle). But I do believe in closing the gun-show loophole. I think private citizens should be able to do background checks. And, no, I'm not looking to take away anybody's guns. I just don't want them falling into the wrong hands.

As long as the average citizen can purchase an assualt rifle (or any other firearm for that matter) with just a simple backround check and a minimal waiting period things like what happened in Sandy Hook will continue to happen. Humans are not perfect and yes gov't does have to step in sometimes and legislate controls for the public's protection. I have never been an advocate of strict gun controls but why the average american household needs an asualt rife is beyond my understanding. Weapons of this type should be limited by a special permit based upon a demonstrated necessity to own one.
Also, many weapons in this country fall into the wrong hands because there are too many of them out there and there is no serious legal accountability for those who posses them to to demonstrate a competancy to safely use and store them. In the past the majority of gun violence was limited to the inner cities and paid little attention to by a vast majority of citizens but in recent years it has become a far too common occurance for gun violence to errupt in the sleepy little towns, shopping malls and in our schools that most all of us now find repulsive. Control at this point in time is just a mirage and near impossible because there are too many guns and not enough accountibility of them.

[holobach]

I fall into the Shall not be infringed group on the gun control issue. The term "assault" rifle was established back when the first ban occurred and had nothing to do other than that fact the gun looked scary. The current wording of the Feinstein bill coming up in 2013 is really scary where we the law abiding gun owners will have to register our guns into a National database AND the guns cant be passed down to family members after I die.

I may get flamed but I believe the establishment of gun free zones has done nothing more than allow the crazy SOBs of the world a very soft target. Put metal detectors at the door and put an ARMED school official manning it.

Allow the teachers should they want to carry concealed AFTER proper TRAINING and RE-TRAINING and MENTAL TESTS. I believe Oregon and Idaho have teachers carrying already. Hell we have guys coming back from overseas that can't get jobs why not station a couple of them at schools? They are already being paid by the Army/Marines etc so no extra budget money needed. Tell the media to quit glamorizing the knucklehead who does such a sick and twisted thing. Not to mention the state of mental health care.

Ask yourself how many mass shootings at schools have happened in Israel? None since they arm their teachers after the I believe 1974 incident.

[YankeeBob]

Originally Posted by choochmalooch

As long as the average citizen can purchase an assualt rifle (or any other firearm for that matter) with just a simple backround check and a minimal waiting period things like what happened in Sandy Hook will continue to happen. Humans are not perfect and yes gov't does have to step in sometimes and legislate controls for the public's protection. I have never been an advocate of strict gun controls but why the average american household needs an asualt rife is beyond my understanding. Weapons of this type should be limited by a special permit based upon a demonstrated necessity to own one.
Also, many weapons in this country fall into the wrong hands because there are too many of them out there and there is no serious legal accountability for those who posses them to to demonstrate a competancy to safely use and store them. In the past the majority of gun violence was limited to the inner cities and paid little attention to by a vast majority of citizens but in recent years it has become a far too common occurance for gun violence to errupt in the sleepy little towns, shopping malls and in our schools that most all of us now find repulsive. Control at this point in time is just a mirage and near impossible because there are too many guns and not enough accountibility of them.

With schpeel like this, it sounds like you didn't read the article.

[jungleman]

I have many firearms and none of mine are classified assault weapons, yet. Just not my style.
The second amendment guaranties our right protect ourselves and to protect our Constitution.
I personally do not believe in gun control at all.
I do have a problem with people wanting to ban something (assault rifles) and they have no clue to what an assault rifle really is.
Assault rifles are already banned to the ordinary citizen.
Never let a crisis go to waste.

[DJW]

Originally Posted by YankeeBob

An extremely well written article on banning "assault weapons".

Originally Posted by YankeeBob

With schpeel like this, it sounds like you didn't read the article.

[speedfoos]

I just read the article and it was very well written and explained all of the alarmist fallacies of the original '94 "assault" weapons ban.

I would not have a beer with chooch. It has nothing to do with his stance on gun control and simply on his ability to spew nonsense and rhetoric without educating himself first. But I'm sure he votes.

[IrishStash]

Originally Posted by choochmalooch

As long as the average citizen can purchase an assualt rifle (or any other firearm for that matter) with just a simple backround check and a minimal waiting period things like what happened in Sandy Hook will continue to happen.

What else do you want? A proctoligists exam?

Humans are not perfect and yes gov't does have to step in sometimes and legislate controls for the public's protection.

So the government is not comprised of humans?

I have never been an advocate of strict gun controls

You had me fooled

but why the average american (typically freedom loving natives would capitalize Americans) household needs an asualt (Pat can I have an "s") rife (and an "l") is beyond my understanding. (as is spelling, punctuation, and grammar)

The definition of ass ault (never heard of an ass ault weapon) Weapons of this type should be limited by a special permit based upon a demonstrated necessity to own one.

I do not believe that you understand the practical or legal definition of an assault weapon. You support my theory by proving you can not spell assault.

Also, many weapons in this country fall into the wrong hands because there are too many of them out there (are you suggesting confiscating existing weapons, Stalin?)and there is no serious legal accountability for those who posses them to to demonstrate a competancy (nor the competency to utilize spell check) to safely use and store them. In the past the majority of gun violence was limited to the inner cities and paid little attention to by a vast majority of citizens (because so few citizens live in cities? I am confused and would love to see some data) but in recent years it has become a far too common occurance (sp) for gun violence to errupt (sp) in the sleepy little towns, shopping malls and in our schools that most all of us now find repulsive. (We find our sleepy little towns, shopping malls and schools repulsive?) Control at this point in time is just a mirage and near impossible because there are too many guns and not enough accountibility (sp) of them.

In light of previous post I advocate we concentrate on readin' riting' and rithmatic before we tackle issues like gun control.

[DJW]

From the "Reverend" Al Sharpton:

“In any civilized society you do not see massacres continue to happen, from Tucson to Aurora to Columbine to Virginia Tech to where we are now in Newtown to Chicago and you keep the same laws when clearly they’re not working,” the MSNBC host said on his radio show Friday.

“What happens when the criminal goes to knives, Al?” the caller asked.

“Then you deal with knives,” Sharpton replied.

Where is that guy's church anyway?

[FLSTFI Dave]

Originally Posted by choochmalooch

. Humans are not perfect and yes gov't does have to step in sometimes and legislate controls for the public's protection. Sure is not working in Chicago or other major cities with very strict gun control laws. Chicago it is illegal to have a gun but the have some of the worst gun violence. Guess the criminals do not follow the laws.

I have never been an advocate of strict gun controls but why the average american household needs an asualt rife is beyond my understanding. Could have fooled me sounds like you want strict gun control like your state does with its draconian gun control laws. Most assault rifles make excellent varmint guns and deer guns and coyote guns. Difference is the color of gun, paint it black and its and assault weapon.


In the past the majority of gun violence was limited to the inner cities and paid little attention to by a vast majority of citizens but in recent years it has become a far too common occurance for gun violence to errupt in the sleepy little towns, shopping malls and in our schools that most all of us now find repulsive. .

With the exception of Tuson and the shooting of the congress woman do you know what the mall shootings, college shootings, and school shootings have in common? In every one of those places guns were out lawed. These nuts pick schools and such because they know no one has a gun to shoot back at them.

When was the last shooting where the nuts new people would be armed? Look at Switzerland every one must have a gun, given to them by the government after their two years in the service. They are trained to shoot it. Then they have it at home with lots off ammo. These would be classified as assault rifles.

[Lefty]

Excellent article, even from as the Woodpecker would say, a libtard. The infintesimal incidence factor, while some may think is cold and heartless, cannot be denied.

Personally I think cars should be banned since they are used as weapons by drunk drivers by way too many on a daily basis.

[DJW]

An opinion column published in the Des Moines Register on Dec. 29, columnist Donald Kaul:

“Here, then, is my ‘madder-than-hell-and-I’m-not-going-to-take-it-anymore’ program for ending gun violence in America:

• Repeal the Second Amendment, the part about guns anyway. It’s badly written, confusing and more trouble than it’s worth. It offers an absolute right to gun ownership, but it puts it in the context of the need for a “well-regulated militia.” We don’t make our militia bring their own guns to battles. And surely the Founders couldn’t have envisioned weapons like those used in the Newtown shooting when they guaranteed gun rights. Owning a gun should be a privilege, not a right.

• Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and the NRA has led to the deaths of more of us than American Commies ever did. (I would also raze the organization’s headquarters, clear the rubble and salt the earth, but that’s optional.) Make ownership of unlicensed assault rifles a felony. If some people refused to give up their guns, that ‘prying the guns from their cold, dead hands’ thing works for me.”

And you wonder where these "conspiracy theories" come from?

[scottq60]

I had read that article before...definitely a good perspective.

As for me, I am ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY ANTI-gun-control. Quite simply, the 2nd Amendment was put in place (NOT for hunting, but) to allow us the capability to protect ourselves, our home and property, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY to protect our Constitutional Republic from a potentially tyrannical government, should the need arise. Since the Newtown massacre, this issue has obviously been front and center, especially with Feinstein's renewed call for assault weapon bans and her extension of the requirements of that ban to encompass nearly all semi-automatic weapons, including rifles, pistols, shotguns and even shotguns that hold multiple rounds. She essentially wants ALL our weapons but will attempt to take them incrementally. She said, after passing the ban in '94, that if she'd had 51 votes, she would have taken ALL weapons from "Mr. and Mrs. America". She has grandiose desires to be a member of the "ruling class" over us common "ruled class" folks once Obama fulfills his goal of "complete transformation" of this once great country into the USSA (Unites Socialist States of America).

I keep reading statements on various blogs where people ask, "what does anyone need with an assault rifle to kill a deer???" For the bazillionth time....the 2nd Amendment has NOTHING to do with HUNTING! We need semi-automatic weapons with 30 rd magazines because the government has FULLY-AUTOMATIC weapons with 30 rd magazines!

[webco2]

Originally Posted by choochmalooch

As long as the average citizen can purchase an assualt rifle (or any other firearm for that matter) with just a simple backround check and a minimal waiting period things like what happened in Sandy Hook will continue to happen. Humans are not perfect and yes gov't does have to step in sometimes and legislate controls for the public's protection. I have never been an advocate of strict gun controls but why the average american household needs an asualt rife is beyond my understanding. Weapons of this type should be limited by a special permit based upon a demonstrated necessity to own one.
Also, many weapons in this country fall into the wrong hands because there are too many of them out there and there is no serious legal accountability for those who posses them to to demonstrate a competancy to safely use and store them. In the past the majority of gun violence was limited to the inner cities and paid little attention to by a vast majority of citizens but in recent years it has become a far too common occurance for gun violence to errupt in the sleepy little towns, shopping malls and in our schools that most all of us now find repulsive. Control at this point in time is just a mirage and near impossible because there are too many guns and not enough accountibility of them.

You Sir are a complete and total SHEEPLE. Now run along and drink your government Koolade like a good little zombie.


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