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08-13-2008, 07:32 PM
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Quiet Please
Ok, I want to go against the grain a bit here. I want to keep my bike fairly quiet. I recently put a set of the older SE pipes on, the ones by SuperTrapp. While they were initially a lot of fun when I wanted to really twist the throttle, they were just plain annoying after about a two hour ride. My wife and I went out the other day and when we got back I took them off and reinstalled the stock pipes, she didn't even have to ask.
So, here is what I am looking for, I want to run the FullSac True Duel conversion to help with the heat, but I want the end result to be not much louder then stock. The trick is going to be finding a good flowing set of pipes that flow the same for both the right and left muffler and are not too loud. Anyone have any suggestions.
Thanks, Harry
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Rear Lowered 3/4"
S/E Tuner and A/C
FullSac TD w/CVO Mufflers (Silent Blue Fellow)
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08-13-2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DoomBuggy
Ok, I want to go against the grain a bit here. I want to keep my bike fairly quiet. I recently put a set of the older SE pipes on, the ones by SuperTrapp. While they were initially a lot of fun when I wanted to really twist the throttle, they were just plain annoying after about a two hour ride. My wife and I went out the other day and when we got back I took them off and reinstalled the stock pipes, she didn't even have to ask.
So, here is what I am looking for, I want to run the FullSac True Duel conversion to help with the heat, but I want the end result to be not much louder then stock. The trick is going to be finding a good flowing set of pipes that flow the same for both the right and left muffler and are not too loud. Anyone have any suggestions.
Thanks, Harry
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HD Touring mufflers 65259-00 Decent flow, great for the torque curve but they run out of steam at the top end, sound a bit better than stock and best of all, relatively quiet. I have a set I may sell, I have run them about 25,000 miles, they are in decent shape but I am running a 2-1 now so I was thinking of selling these.
Sam
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08-14-2008, 12:55 AM
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I think I have tried way too many mufflers and pipe configurations. After all the fooling around the best muffler for sound and keeping quiet has to be the S&S spo mufflers. I think they are better on the standard y pipe headers than on a true dual setup for over all quietness. While fighting reversion issues with my fuel injection I went to true duals with the spo mufflers they got a lot louder. I have tried the fat cat 2 into 1 with quiet baffle those stayed on the bike less than two weeks too loud and way too much heat cooking my right leg. I got desperate and removed the T out of the stock headers and made them into a 2 into 1 set up and with the spo muffler on one side only I have found what I have been looking for. A very pleasant low rumble but not loud. It seems the greater volume of exhaust flowing through the muffler takes the sharp bark out of them. I may have given up some power but the enjoyment of riding is a worthwhile trade off.
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08-14-2008, 07:34 AM
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V&H Monster Ovals...nuff said
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08-15-2008, 09:44 AM
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The S&S SPO's aren't meant to be run with any kind of true dual set up, believe me, I know!
With that said, they are ok for the stock head pipe. I have also gone thru too many sets of slip-ons to keep track of and what I have on my bike now seems to have done the trick.....for now
I am running the Fullsac true dual set up with a stock set of CVO mufflers from an 07 Screamin' Eagle CVO Road King on my 03 Road King with a stock 88" and big sucker air cleaner with a DFO. These pipes are quiet but really flow a lot better than stock pipes. Plus the 4" dia can and heat shields don't look half bad either
This set up might not be for everyone, but I was looking for quiet and good flow and I may have found it. I have run Supermeg 2 into 1, Screamin' Eagles, S&S SPO, WIld Pigs, Harley touring mufflers, Fullsac touring and also Fullsac standard re-cores and they were all too loud. Well, all of them except Harley's touring mufflers. Your mileage may vary but it works for me. I can ride all day and actually enjoy it because of the lack of noise.
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08-15-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepwatchman
The S&S SPO's aren't meant to be run with any kind of true dual set up, believe me, I know!
With that said, they are ok for the stock head pipe. I have also gone thru too many sets of slip-ons to keep track of and what I have on my bike now seems to have done the trick.....for now
I am running the Fullsac true dual set up with a stock set of CVO mufflers from an 07 Screamin' Eagle CVO Road King on my 03 Road King with a stock 88" and big sucker air cleaner with a DFO. These pipes are quiet but really flow a lot better than stock pipes. Plus the 4" dia can and heat shields don't look half bad either
This set up might not be for everyone, but I was looking for quiet and good flow and I may have found it. I have run Supermeg 2 into 1, Screamin' Eagles, S&S SPO, WIld Pigs, Harley touring mufflers, Fullsac touring and also Fullsac standard re-cores and they were all too loud. Well, all of them except Harley's touring mufflers. Your mileage may vary but it works for me. I can ride all day and actually enjoy it because of the lack of noise.
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Howard
How ya doin? I ordered a silent series core for that 2-1, love it the way it is now (14 discs) but still want more quiet at WOT  should have that core today...
Sam
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08-15-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SamF
HD Touring mufflers 65259-00 Decent flow, great for the torque curve but they run out of steam at the top end, sound a bit better than stock and best of all, relatively quiet. I have a set I may sell, I have run them about 25,000 miles, they are in decent shape but I am running a 2-1 now so I was thinking of selling these.
Sam
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i agree, the best overall performing dual exhaust gor a bagger and it is quiet also. you will run out of cam before ya run out of exhaust with stock motor.
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08-15-2008, 01:48 PM
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Excellent, the main motor work I plan on doing is a set of cams & A/C over the winter and of course at that point I will put some kind of tuner on there, my little "resistors" will run out of steam with that work.
Thanks,
Harry
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2008 FLHTCU - ABS / Dark Blue Pearl
Rear Lowered 3/4"
S/E Tuner and A/C
FullSac TD w/CVO Mufflers (Silent Blue Fellow)
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08-15-2008, 07:35 PM
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FNG :)
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Trade It In And Get Yourself A Honda Goldwing Fool,loud Pipes Save Lives!!!
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08-16-2008, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sfv 666
Trade It In And Get Yourself A Honda Goldwing Fool,loud Pipes Save Lives!!!
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thats what the last idiot said-------as he t-boned the chic with the loud stereo.
defensive riding SAVES LIVES.
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08-16-2008, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sfv 666
Trade It In And Get Yourself A Honda Goldwing Fool,loud Pipes Save Lives!!!
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08-16-2008, 09:37 AM
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What's the speed of dark?
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I was running V&H Longshots, had the baffles replaced with Thunder Monsters so it was a bit on the loud side.
Was in the "fast lane" of a 35MPH inactive school zone area and there was a Ford F250 on my right. Side by side for at least 30 seconds. I could see her face in the mirror chatting away on her cell phone. So if I could see her face, she could see me...
Then the idiot woman starts coming right on over, which would of pushed me into on-coming traffic.
Luckily I do drive like I expect everyone to kill me and keep a constant situational awareness. Had to lock up my brakes and look in the rear-view at the same time! Luckily, no one was too close behind me.
My new RB Racing Pro Stock's my offend some people as too loud but you can bet there is no doubt of them not knowing I'm there when I roll up beside them!
I ride daily and when it comes to my survival, I'll do whatever it takes whether cagers like it or not...
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08-16-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sfv 666
Trade It In And Get Yourself A Honda Goldwing Fool,loud Pipes Save Lives!!!
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I've had the loud pipes and I've had the quiet pipes. At this point in my life I will trust my driving skills and situational awareness over the hopes that the kid in the sound proof Lexus with a cell phone to one ear and the stereo on 11 will hear me.
Now what loud pipes are really good for is permanently damaging your hearing. I was also a bass player in a R&R band for many, many years and between standing next to an insane drummer, years of drag racing, and the 40" drag pipes on my Sporty I now have a little friend who sings in my ear, ALL THE TIME. Look up tinnitus to get a preview of what your middle age is going to hold for you. And that's MISTER FOOL to you.......
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"The memories of a man in his old age, are the deeds of a man in his prime" - PF
Make memories while you can!
2008 FLHTCU - ABS / Dark Blue Pearl
Rear Lowered 3/4"
S/E Tuner and A/C
FullSac TD w/CVO Mufflers (Silent Blue Fellow)
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08-16-2008, 10:48 AM
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FOG
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Air horns work nicely and take no more time than to roll the throttle on one's extra loud pipes. I like a little more rumble than stock, but I really don't like extra loud....my pipes or others. I would guess in pretty much all anecdotes describing "LPSL" situations, that air horns would have worked just as well. Of course, air horns aren't willy enhancing like super loud pipes are.
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08-16-2008, 10:57 AM
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What's the speed of dark?
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I hear you (LOL!) on the tinnitus. But mines from 20+ years of artillery, playing with explosives and shooting.
Loud pipes don't aggravate mine, as the exhaust exits below my right saddlebag. The wind whistling past my ears is the killer...
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ENTIRE BIKE CURRENTLY IN MANY, MANY ZIP-LOC BAGGIES
HD Engine cases
SSW+ Heads
Zippers 54mm TB
DTT 6.0 Injectors
RB Racing LSR Pro Stock 2-1
Last edited by FLSTCI124" : 08-16-2008 at 11:00 AM.
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