Whats your opinion?

[gsxrboy96]

Well, since my dad did my 1996 electra glide in, ive been doing tons of research on buying a newer style twin cam electra glide, and sheesh, what a problematic pile of sh*t that motor is, So i purchased a 98 electra glide classic with 6k miles and plan on holding on to it forever,so, do you guys feel like the twin cam is a piece, or did i just psych myself out by reading all the bad stuff on these forums about those motors? i just couldnt bring myself to shell out the dough to purchase a potential time bomb, I want you guys feelings on that. ???

[LowRiderCustom]

I bought an EVO since I heard the Twin Cam wasn't as well made. After 30K miles on my motor it still runs strong.

[nightrob]

you psyched yourself out!! I have had EVO'S and twinkies both are good motors, but both will break if you push them to far. Enjoy spending the dough to get your evo up to par with a stock 96 twinkie. Just my 2 cents.

EVO vs Twin Cam..Performance
Posted on January 21st, 2009 by ironglas
Here is a comparison of HP and Torque numbers for EVO and Twin Cam motors. These are general comparisons of Stage I motors based on rear wheel load dyno testing, SAE corrected.

EVO 80″ HP 64 Torque 73 ft/lbs

TC 88″ HP 69 Torque 74 ft/lbs

TC 95″ HP 78 Torque 90 ft/lbs

TC 96″ HP 76 Torque 90 ft/lbs

TC 103″ HP 80 Torque 95 ft/lbs

TC 110″ HP 85 Torque 101 ft/lbs

[gsxrboy96]

[quote=nightrob;1690663]you psyched yourself out!! I have had EVO'S and twinkies both are good motors, but both will break if you push them to far. Enjoy spending the dough to get your evo up to par with a stock 96 twinkie. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks for your response, but the 96 is the very last motor i would have...... the cranks are a coin flip and i just cant see spending that type of money on that. besides hp, do you really think the tc is a reliable as a evo?

[nightrob]

I have 27k and some change on a slightly modded motor right now. (cams/heads..yada yada yada) and it hasnt missed a beat. I run it from 20 degrees f to 100 degrees f, cruising and in traffic. Never left me stranded. Wish I could say the same for the old S&S, but Im sure I beat the old S&S more. As for cranks ok Ill give you a lil on that, but like I said before when you push something far enough eventually it will break.

[pulidog830]

GSXRBOY96 I was had the same dilemma. Did I do to much reading? I don't think so. I wanted reliability for long trips and figured that an old generation motor must have most, if not all the wrinkles out of it. The TC was the new generation and was not that comfortable with the history to that point. So I went with a 97 Ultra that had 1420 miles on the clock. I love the bike. I am getting ready to do a mild cam upgrade and that will be it. I ride the mountains here in the east and with my wife on the back I need just a little more power.

So enjoy your new ride. I do.

[4XLT]

hey GSXR, dont kill yourself worrying about your decision, you made it and i think you made the right one personally.... dont look at those HP-TQ numbers as gospel...

i have a 98 E-Glide Standard and my buddies 04 RK never once pulled away from me and i weigh more than he does..

for the price of just a cam ( ev-27 at the time) and adjustable pushrods i was able to walk him easy.. and that was on top of a motor with 60K on it..
wish i would have had the money for some head work to go with the cam swap ..

Hillside had a motor sitting on the floor in their showroom this past spring when i picked my bike up that was an 80" pushing 90+ hp i believe..

[blackjackcustms]

I own a shop, and I own a bunch of evos, yet not one twincam! I have seen so many clapped out 2-3 year old Twinkies, with messed up cranks, trashed cam chests, and wacky fuel injection problems, you could'nt pay me to own one.

As far as the thousands to hop up an EVO, be real. You can modify an evo to keep up with a twin cam for half the money! Stock for stock a 96" twinky is a little hotter, but with just minor tweaks, the evo is it's equal, AND you'll never have to wonder if that tapping noise means you're not gonna get home because your tensioners or cam bearings, or whatever just gave up!

You dont have to hammer on a twin cam to break it, it breaks itself. I beat the crap outa my evos, and always increase displacement, and they are worry free. when I have had them break, it's always something I knew about and risked, like used tappets with high strength springs or something. If you build it right, and take care of it, you will be able to completely rely on an EVO, and not so much on a twincam.

[SAMCRO]

I had 54,000 miles on my last twin cam with no problems whats so ever. (2003 Road King) My buddy has 47,000 on his Duece, no issues there either.

But if you want quality and reliability buy a Gold Wing

[myglide]

I don't know for sure. I have 24k on my '07 standard. so far so good. MY buddy has 96k on his evo without any problems. '07 has the cam chain upgrade which is the weak link on the twin cams. That is my understanding anyway.

[93 FXR]

[quote=gsxrboy96;1690694]

Originally Posted by nightrob

you psyched yourself out!! I have had EVO'S and twinkies both are good motors, but both will break if you push them to far. Enjoy spending the dough to get your evo up to par with a stock 96 twinkie. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks for your response, but the 96 is the very last motor i would have...... the cranks are a coin flip and i just cant see spending that type of money on that. besides hp, do you really think the tc is a reliable as a evo?

No, I don't.

Chad,

When nightrob said:

"Enjoy spending the dough to get your evo up to par with a stock 96 twinkie."

and looking at the stats he posted:

"EVO 80″ HP 64 Torque 73 ft/lbs

TC 88″ HP 69 Torque 74 ft/lbs......5 more HP and 1 ft/lb more TQ

TC 96″ HP 76 Torque 90 ft/lbs".....12 more HP and 17 ft/lb more TQ

Let's not forget....the TC88 is 10% larger in displacement, we all know of their issues...and the TC96 is 20% bigger.....with a sh!tty crank...

I know what I've spent on my build, and I'd much rather have an Evo...

That's why I bought it, and passed up many a Twin Cam...(no pun intended, however, accurate...)

Getting up to par with a TC?....Really?

I have no problem with "par"....fact is, my TC88 buddies look at my

"little 80 inch" Evo and scratch their heads while they're watching my taillight go by......fact.

You did just fine, my friend, and IMO, you have a better motor.

Look at most all of the big inch monster motors out there....
TP, S&S, Patrick Racing, Merch, R&R, the list goes on and on...
mostly all Evo style motors.....ever wonder why?

[trimmer]

My '90 FXSTC with a '99 "80 evo(22k on motor) .080 off,10:1,EV27,adj pushrods,hypercharger,Python 2-1,Dyna 2000,rejetted to 45 and 190 runs@100hp and is the most reliable ride I've ever owned.Later model evos have the oil return issue corrected,change the cam bearing,and you're good to go.Tough,solid motor that can take a punch.

[blackjackcustms]

Originally Posted by trimmer

My '90 FXSTC with a '99 "80 evo(22k on motor) .080 off,10:1,EV27,adj pushrods,hypercharger,Python 2-1,Dyna 2000,rejetted to 45 and 190 runs@100hp and is the most reliable ride I've ever owned.Later model evos have the oil return issue corrected,change the cam bearing,and you're good to go.Tough,solid motor that can take a punch.

Agreed, but 100hp with an ev27???????

[lucille]

[quote=93 FXR;1691596]

Originally Posted by gsxrboy96

No, I don't.

Chad,

When nightrob said:

"Enjoy spending the dough to get your evo up to par with a stock 96 twinkie."

and looking at the stats he posted:

"EVO 80″ HP 64 Torque 73 ft/lbs

TC 88″ HP 69 Torque 74 ft/lbs......5 more HP and 1 ft/lb more TQ

TC 96″ HP 76 Torque 90 ft/lbs".....12 more HP and 17 ft/lb more TQ

Let's not forget....the TC88 is 10% larger in displacement, we all know of their issues...and the TC96 is 20% bigger.....with a sh!tty crank...

I know what I've spent on my build, and I'd much rather have an Evo...

That's why I bought it, and passed up many a Twin Cam...(no pun intended, however, accurate...)

Getting up to par with a TC?....Really?

I have no problem with "par"....fact is, my TC88 buddies look at my

"little 80 inch" Evo and scratch their heads while they're watching my taillight go by......fact.

You did just fine, my friend, and IMO, you have a better motor.

Look at most all of the big inch monster motors out there....
TP, S&S, Patrick Racing, Merch, R&R, the list goes on and on...
mostly all Evo style motors.....ever wonder why?

It's fun bagging a 'twinkie' or two....

[Locodave]

Hi, Blackjackcustoms. I have a Q for you. I have a custom 99 Fatboy, built in 98. 80 cube evo with a S&S lower case. Top end is stock Harley. Would you know if S&S used the better cam bearings back then?

Or do you have to take it apart to see? ( Sister passed away & I inherted it. )

Not the fastest compared to other Harleys I've ridden. But, I like it a lot. Dave