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Old 09-14-2009, 02:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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mixture factory setting

Can someone tell me what the factory setting before the plug has been drilled out for the harley davidson CV carb on a 1990 flhtp air/fuel mixture screw, I think its around 4 turns out but not sure?
I had installed a HQ carb kit and cam and after installing the carb kit the bike had real crappy performance right from a stand still then I changed the slide over to a modified type with the extra holes and still wouldn't run right but with the same slide and the nylon washer added to the needle ran great but now I got the worst gas milage possible. Oh ya on the stock slide and the needle washer added it still ran crapp ,no torque.
I'd liike to find out what stock mixture setting is so I can start over from scratch with everything carb stock. Plugs seem a bit lite colored since putting in the modified slide as well.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Actually, the usual starting point for the mixture screw on a CV carb is 1.5 to 2 turns out.

It has been my experience that modified slides (drilled, extra holes, etc.) doesn't really gain you anything but headaches. Theoretically, it is supposed to make the slide lighter & make the throttle respond quicker, but won't give you any power increase whatsoever. If the slide is too light, the throttle will "wander" a bit - surge, etc. instead of holding a constant rpm at constant throttle.

If your bike is anywhere near stock - still 80" and just mild performance tuning - you should use a 45 or 46 slow jet, and a 180 or 185 main jet. Don't go crazy monkeying with the needle jet, as it'll cause trickle-down issues with the other 2 circuits.

With the needle jet set in stock position, use a stock slide, and start with a 45/180 combo and 2 turns out on the idle mixture screw.

If it stumbles or coughs immediately off idle, try going out another 1/2 turn on the idle mix. If that doesn't cure it, move up to a 46 slow jet, and go down to 1.5 turns out on the idle mix screw. It is a tedious process, but pretty straightforward.

If the engine gets "flat" between 4-5000rpm, you might need to go up a main jet size. Between 4000rpm & redline is where you'll need to see if your main jet is big enough.

If your bike coughs or stumbles in between 2000 & 4000 rpm, then you can start monkeying with your needle jet. Until then, don't bother. Only make one change at a time, then test it for about 15 minutes. Keep track of what changes you're doing, and you'll have that sucker dialed in, no problem.

I know you probably have, but double-check all the manifold fittings to ensure everything is sealed. Do the old WD-40 test, and make sure you aren't trying to tune your carb & compensate for a vacuum leak.

Good luck!
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Danny that is some good info. I already have a 45 and 180 jet and I went back to the stock slide and needle and I also checked for leaks and found none. Any idea why I'd get a run on condition when I kill the power ? I'm thinking possibly its running a bit advanced? I also put the airmixture back to the stock when I popped out the plug which I'm sure was almost 4 turns but I will try your advice and turn it in.
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Fartnokker has it right. I did a few jet kits 10+ years ago. The idle mixture screws were somewhere around the 1.5 - 2 turns from the factory. The jet kits asked for an additional .5 turn. 4 turns seems excessive, unless it is masking a problem somewhere else.
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My 89 was 1.5.

Also don't forget to plug up the hole where the screw is. More air can get in that way and cause tuning issues.


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Yeah, your dieseling could totally be a symptom of timing issues.

I'm wondering if your timing got f**kered up when doing the cam change. That would pretty much explain everything.
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I found an article today about a guy that times his EVO with the spark plug reading, and followed his instructions with a new set of champs, I think my bike is running much better after retarding the timing a bit more and haven't seen any run on since either.
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