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Old 07-18-2009, 09:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well I ran Torco for about 5000 miles and switched back to Redline Synthetic. Not only did the Redline drop the temp a bit, it's also quieter. Ran the coast to Cali and all I could get when it was time for a change was Redline and I'm happy to have switched back. Now have Redline in all three holes again.
Not to take anything away from Redline as I they have a good product, but I'm guessing you could have replaced your 5000 mile old Torco oil with fresh Torco oil and you would also have gotten slightly lower oil temps and reduced valvetrain noise?
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Torco 50 and 60w

I use 50w in winter(Dec, Jan, Feb) and 60w the rest of the year in my GMR 117. No problems. Temps over 115* here in the summer.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I use 50w in winter(Dec, Jan, Feb) and 60w the rest of the year in my GMR 117. No problems. Temps over 115* here in the summer.
Dude!!!! arizona doesn't have a winter!!!
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Winter is a relative term....lol
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:50 PM   #20 (permalink)
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OK, I've read the many posts about Torco V-series oils touting their MPZ - aeration/foam reducing additive. But most of the Torco oil talk has been centered around their straight 50W or 60W petroleum based oils. I personally want to use the same type of engine oil through out the riding season which can include some pretty cool/cold temps, so I don't believe straight weight oil is the way to go - especially a petroleum based oil. I am also a big believer in using a quality synthetic in the engine, so who can give me feedback on Torco's V-series "SS" Synthetic 20W-50 oil which also uses the additive MPZ? Does their MPZ really cut down or eliminate foaming? Will this oil really reduce engine temps vs. competing 20W-50 synthetic oil?
The synthetic blend doesn't advertise on their site as having this MPZ additive???
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think DB is referring to this: http://torcousa.com/products/product...a-cd0965cef88c

I'm sure you're looking at the v-series line for Harley & V-Twins?
Yes I was!! Is that safe to use in V-twins??? It's advertised as a car product???
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:44 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes I was!! Is that safe to use in V-twins??? It's advertised as a car product???
It should be, but the oils labeled for V-Twin, Off-road, Racing etc typically have higher levels of Zinc & Phosphorus which are at lower levels in automobile use oils as they create havoc with catalytic converters.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:48 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It should be, but the oils labeled for V-Twin, Off-road, Racing etc typically have higher levels of Zinc & Phosphorus which are at lower levels in automobile use oils as they create havoc with catalytic converters.
Don't know if i would trust car products in my $22,000 bike???
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The synthetic blend doesn't advertise on their site as having this MPZ additive???
As I understand it, MPZ is not a miracle chemical. It's simply a name Torco gave the chemical combination of Moly, Phosphorus & Zinc in the early 70's. I believe that most quality oils all use these chemicals to a certain level and it's the amount of these ingredients that separate their recommended usage for vehicles with catalytic converters vs. everything else.
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Here ya go
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Hey DB, would you recommend Synthetic for a new Big Bore/big cubic inch build???During the break in period???
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Hey DB, would you recommend Synthetic for a new Big Bore/big cubic inch build???During the break in period???
Not DB but my answer is no Craig.

You're going to do several changes during the first 1 or 2000 miles.
At least I hope you are. Any good quality dino oil is good for break in and should seat the rings faster.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:19 PM   #28 (permalink)
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In short yes, many manufacturers use synthetic oil straight off the assembly line and a few use conventional oil for break in. In our experience syn. oil works perfectly fine with no problems what so ever with seating rings or bearing skate. The bottom line is that if you want to use synthetic oil for break in you can, if you don't want to then don't.
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