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Old 10-26-2009, 12:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just A Click?

Hit the starter button and all i get is a click, power at the cable on the starter when the button is engaged. Tried another relay with same results...headlight does dim just a tad, not like a bad ground or anything. Lights nice and bright, not like a weak battery (new this season) Thoughts? right forum? sorry if it isn't, HELP!
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How long has the bike been sitting?
My '08 StreetBob did the same thing to me. I had the alarm set,no battery tender for about 3 weeks(I've been rolling around on my '65 Sportster).
I hooked up the tender and the next day everthing was fine.
The alarm sucked out just enough juice from the battery that the starter just would not turn the motor over.

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Old 10-26-2009, 04:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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WAS riding every day, it had sat maybe a week or two...i'll try to charge it up and go from there but i really don't think that's it. happened while i was riding too. stalled and i had to roll/push to get going...not impressed.
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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check the ground wire on the starter. This happened on my eglide everything acted normal but it wouldn't start I charged the battery and it still wouldn't start.I thought it was a bad battery, put in new battery and still wouldn't start.Wiggled the starter wires and it started right up,tightened loose ground wire and no more problems,(kicked self in butt for not checking the starter end of the battery cables
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi, To add. Have you checked voltage @ the battery when you hit the start button? Was the click from the relay or solinoid?

I've seen starters internals get fryed & drops the voltage like a stone. Just like a bad battery. But yours didn't as the headlights stayed lit.

If it stays up. Checking volts at the starter large lug. When you hit the button. Might be the starter solinoid itself, internal burnt contacs. Try using a jumper wire from the batt pos lug to the starter solinoid small terminal. Green wire on mine. That would energize the solinoid. If the solinoid was good, you would hear it click in. Starter would crank over. (That would bypass the switch & relay.) Test voltage @ the solinoids small wire to see if it matches batt volts when you press the start button. At least you would know then if the probs in the button, solinoid, or wiring.

If you want to take the solinoid apart to look at the internals. Leave the lock nut to the case alone. ( Where the pos cable attaches. ) Till you get the front 3 screws out & pull the guts out to inspect. You can loosten the pos cable & take it off, just not the case nut below it. Then loosten the nut close to the case. After the guts are out. Book said to do it in that order.

If you use an ohm meter. You can test ohms read between 2 contacs on the same wire. 0.0 is a good contac. But the ohms test is not as good as a drop test.

How to do a drop test-> http://www.aa1car.com/library/voltage_drop_testing.htm

Editing-> Relay clicks. Start switch to solinoid. Test for voltage to relay pin #30. Yes? Voltage present pin # 87 when the starter button is pushed? Voltage present at green wire @ solinoid? All yes, then hunt at the starter.

On the solinoid clicks. Says do as drop test batt pos to relay terminal on starter, then batt to starter terminal. The drop test should show less than 1v drop if good. Next is the ground. Drop test batt neg post to starter studs or bolts. Same deal on less than 1v.

If it is the solinoid, book says there's a repair kit for it. Dave

Last edited by Locodave : 10-29-2009 at 02:32 AM. Reason: Found more specifics on testing.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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THANKS guys! all good info and maybe get after it tonight.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It was the relay on mine, but since it happened while you were riding, I would look at you battery cabels.

Check the two webbed ground straps they are prone to loseing contact.

I added an extra ground from the battery to the solenoid bolt.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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really didn't happen while riding, started hard but did start. When it stalled is when i discovered the the dreaded "click". but will do!
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Hi, Reading the 1st post that the headlights dimmed a bit. But didn't go out. Made me think. Not a batt prob. Also you replacing the relay.

Relays have 2 circuts. One is the feed from the ignition switch once it's turned on. To feed power to 2 sides of it. Other circut is to put power to a contac, once the relay gets energized. Completes the other circut to the starter solinoid.

One side ( Circut. ) Power to the start switch, push the button completes the circut there. routing power to & thru the relays electro-magnet to ground. ( Low power draw on that circut lets you use smaller gauge wire. Up to the handlebar switch) A relay will work with only 7-8 volts to 12-13 on energizing the magnet.

Once the relays electro-mag gets energized. It makes the internal contacs touch on another circut. Feed volts to it from another circut. The #30 pin. Once closed by the electro-mag. volts flow to the #87 pin, un-fused after the #87 to the starter solinoid. Those wires are a bit larger to carry the higher amp draw.

You can replace a relay, feel it click. ( Seperate circut eh ) But if the internal contacs that close when energized. Diffrent circut, 30 power to the 87 to the starter solinoid once the relay is energized. Didn't have power to the pin 30. No power to pin 30, pin 87 to solinoid won't have power to energize the starter solinoid. K? Make sence?

Starter relay color codes-> Black with a red strip is the feed to the electro-magnet from the start switch, pin 86. Black is the ground wire for it, pin 85. Red with a black stripe is the feed to the internal contac, pin 30. Once closed with the electro-mag energized. Makes contac internally with the Green wire, pin 87, going to the starter solinoid. To energize the solinoid. Making internal contac to power the starter motor.

For giggles. Take the cover off your old relay. You'll see how it works. Look close & you should see the numbers stamped by each male terminal where the wires get pushed on.

If you need testing how too on the starter itself. Let me know. Lotta typing, but willing to try on help. Dave

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