Stage1 that bad? : V-Twin Forum: Harley Davidson Forums

DCRANER · 01-03-2007, 09:19 AM

I know the 07's run lean, probably even with the "0903 Smoothing" setup in them, but is a basic dealer Stage1 really that bad / waste of money?

Modern engines (cars) seem to get good numbers without being too rich, so although maybe not ideal would a dealer Stage1 be good enough for the money to have an 07 run well without excessive heat? Meaning just real world dependable without seeking a certain Dyno number.

The HD website shows the Stage1 for the 96" Dyno with about 85 lbs. tq. @ rear wheel from 2,500 to 4,000 rpm's. That seems decent, if it's correct, if it also keeps you away from excessive heat.

MegaGlide · 01-03-2007, 09:24 AM

Think about how cars ran in 1975, the first year for catalytic converters.
We're there now.

DCRANER · 01-03-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaGlide

Think about how cars ran in 1975, the first year for catalytic converters.
We're there now.

Ahhh, the aroma of rich Corinthian Leather.

SLOWHOUND · 01-03-2007, 09:32 AM

Don't you mean rotten eggs.

nvsteve · 01-03-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCRANER

I know the 07's run lean, probably even with the "0903 Smoothing" setup in them, but is a basic dealer Stage1 really that bad / waste of money?

Modern engines (cars) seem to get good numbers without being too rich, so although maybe not ideal would a dealer Stage1 be good enough for the money to have an 07 run well without excessive heat? Meaning just real world dependable without seeking a certain Dyno number.

The HD website shows the Stage1 for the 96" Dyno with about 85 lbs. tq. @ rear wheel from 2,500 to 4,000 rpm's. That seems decent, if it's correct, if it also keeps you away from excessive heat.

Dealer downloads are $150. For about $140 more you can order a PC111usb
from Fuelmoto with a map that will be way better than the download.
My stage 1 07 dynos right at 85 tq. with no more heat issues.