Vance & Hines Fuelpak Talk.

[upnorthbiker]

Hi Everyone,
Just took delivery of my first Harley on Saturday.
A 2008 FXDCi with stage 1, Vance and Hines Bigshot staggerd with standard baffles, hi flow air cleaner and a Vance and Hines fuel pak. All fitted by the dealer.
The bike pops and backfires a bit in deceleration and sometime when shifting up. Being used to a Suzuki fitted with PC3 I am not used to this,
is this whats expected of the setup i have ?
would i need diferent settings if v & H quiet baffles were fitted ?
The bike runs good otherwise and no noticable surging, and there is good power throughout the rev range.
Are there any settings for the Fuel pak when used in the UK ? surely we would need diferent settings, hight above sea level, fuel grades ect .
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks for any input.
Safe riding.
Jeff.

[Semp]

Originally Posted by Jeffytune

In my humble opinion, yes, it is very much worth it.
The program gain quite a bit better info for run-ability and fine tuning.

Technology always marches forward, and for 30 bucks, you can gain all of that.

I got the upgrade and the bike feels quicker and more responsive now. Well worth the 30 bucks.

Semp

[Joker1450]

Originally Posted by Jeffytune

Hi.

Yes, there is a program for stock engine, high flow air filter with stock unmodified mufflers.
I would used the SE air filter kit, as this is the one V&H used to set the program.

It is fuel program FP-1760.
Link....
http://www.fuelpakfi.com/harley1.html

Be sure the fuelpak is for the 2008, your's has the electric throttle.

I hope this helps.

thank YOU!

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by Joker1450

thank YOU!

Anytime.

[Joker1450]

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if I have the 13 version what values I must put from 23 to 33 modes? zero?

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by Joker1450

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if I have the 13 version what values I must put from 23 to 33 modes? zero?

If you have Version 13, then you use the numbers provided.
16, 0, 0, -7,-2, 12, 15, 20, 38, 45, 55, 20 & 20.

[hozeheads]

I've put over 200 miles on my bike since install of the fuel pak. I'm getting a pop out the exhaust in high rpms from 1st to 2nd and some time 2nd to 3rd. Ths doesnt happen all the time only in high revs. Any suggestions on the fix.

Will v&h ever release what the numbers mean. I guess that a dyno is the only way to know whats really going on.

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by hozeheads

I've put over 200 miles on my bike since install of the fuel pak. I'm getting a pop out the exhaust in high rpms from 1st to 2nd and some time 2nd to 3rd. This doesn't happen all the time only in high revs. Any suggestions on the fix.

It is usually that you don't have the throttle closed down at the time you shift.
Try changing cell 23 down one to 15, it can help, sometime, but do check with V&H to make sure.

Will v&h ever release what the numbers mean. I guess that a dyno is the only way to know whats really going on.

I have begged and pleaded for them to do so, they are thinking of releasing a CD to help dyno shops to tune them in, but I really doubt they will ever tell us what they really mean.

[Joker1450]

Originally Posted by Jeffytune

If you have Version 13, then you use the numbers provided.
16, 0, 0, -7,-2, 12, 15, 20, 38, 45, 55, 20 & 20.

thank you, and if I have the version 12?

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by Joker1450

thank you, and if I have the version 12?

The same, as you will not have a cell 34 or 35.

[Joker1450]

Originally Posted by Jeffytune

The same, as you will not have a cell 34 or 35.

ok, I understand!

[jcunny]

I have a 2008 Street Glide and just installed the new V&H FuelPak #61009. I have Sampson 28" slip-on ovals and high flow air cleaner. V&H originally told me to us the FP-1720 set-up but when I did that the bike ran poorly and smelled of fuel. On the spec sheet that came with the FuelPak it says to use FP-1717 for oval slip-ons. I used this set-up and the bike seems to run okay but I am concerned that these settings may refer to HD slip-ons and not Sampsons. I emailed V&H tech support and here is their response. FP-1718 is also a good map! if it works well stay with it. Every bike is a little different. By adding the Fuelpak you get the most out of your pipes, you avoid running lean and ruining your engine, and you should also see a much crisper throttle response.
Can you help me out? I am somewhat of a novice.

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by jcunny

I have a 2008 Street Glide and just installed the new V&H FuelPak #61009. I have Sampson 28" slip-on ovals and high flow air cleaner. V&H originally told me to us the FP-1720 set-up but when I did that the bike ran poorly and smelled of fuel. On the spec sheet that came with the FuelPak it says to use FP-1717 for oval slip-ons. I used this set-up and the bike seems to run okay but I am concerned that these settings may refer to HD slip-ons and not Sampsons. I emailed V&H tech support and here is their response. FP-1718 is also a good map! if it works well stay with it. Every bike is a little different. By adding the Fuelpak you get the most out of your pipes, you avoid running lean and ruining your engine, and you should also see a much crisper throttle response.
Can you help me out? I am somewhat of a novice.

Hi.

Well, I believe the oval slip on they are talking about it the V&H oval.

I checked the website, and they do not have a listing for Samson slip-ons, but if you use the other slip-on, it says to use FP-1745 if a quite baffle.
If a loud one, try the FP-1791.

You can try those, but I think you need to call Vance and hines for help on this one.

[Mossman]

I have a few questions and concerns, and I hope you guys can help me.

I have a 2006 Road King Classic with V&H slip-on Turndowns (standard baffles), SE air cleaner and stage-1. I have had the bike for about a year and have just short of 4000 miles on it. Since this was my first Harley and I was not satisfied with the stock exhaust I had the dealer do the muffler and air cleaner install (wish I had done it myself) they told me I needed a Stage-1 download or the bike wouldn’t run well so I agreed and paid for it. Since the beginning the bike has popped on decal, on gear shifts up or down, backfired/popped through the breather and surges a constant throttle in 3rd or 4th gear. It also runs very hot at low speed in traffic. I ride with other guys with stock and modified systems and my bike starts overheating and low idling well before theirs. My bike sounds great with these muffles and everyone comments on how great it sound and how good the turndowns look but the performance is lacking.

I have had the dealer check everything since he did the work and he just tells me it’s because the system is not stock. If I want it better I need to buy a SERT and have it dyno-ed and tuned. Sounds like more money for HD and out of my pocket. I asked about the Fuel-Pak and the PCIII and their answer is that it will make it some better but will not fix my problems.

After reading this forum I am convinced a Fuel-Pak will help my situation. I am not looking for perfection maybe a 70-80% solution.

Will the Fuel-Pak help the surging in constant throttle?

Will the Fuel-Pak help with the low speed overheating?

Will the Fuel-Pak help with the popping through the breather?

I live in Hawaii and I expect to pay $274.00 tax and S/H included is this a good price or would you risk an EBAY?

Is there any way to know if they really did the stage 1?

I know I have a lot of questions and I have asked many people but no one I know has a Fuel-Pak.

Please help

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by Mossman

I have a few questions and concerns, and I hope you guys can help me.

I have a 2006 Road King Classic with V&H slip-on Turndowns (standard baffles), SE air cleaner and stage-1. I have had the bike for about a year and have just short of 4000 miles on it. Since this was my first Harley and I was not satisfied with the stock exhaust I had the dealer do the muffler and air cleaner install (wish I had done it myself) they told me I needed a Stage-1 download or the bike wouldn’t run well so I agreed and paid for it. Since the beginning the bike has popped on decal, on gear shifts up or down, backfired/popped through the breather and surges a constant throttle in 3rd or 4th gear. It also runs very hot at low speed in traffic. I ride with other guys with stock and modified systems and my bike starts overheating and low idling well before theirs. My bike sounds great with these muffles and everyone comments on how great it sound and how good the turndowns look but the performance is lacking.

I have had the dealer check everything since he did the work and he just tells me it’s because the system is not stock. If I want it better I need to buy a SERT and have it dyno-ed and tuned. Sounds like more money for HD and out of my pocket. I asked about the Fuel-Pak and the PCIII and their answer is that it will make it some better but will not fix my problems.

After reading this forum I am convinced a Fuel-Pak will help my situation. I am not looking for perfection maybe a 70-80% solution.

Will the Fuel-Pak help the surging in constant throttle?

Will the Fuel-Pak help with the low speed overheating?

Will the Fuel-Pak help with the popping through the breather?

I live in Hawaii and I expect to pay $274.00 tax and S/H included is this a good price or would you risk an EBAY?

Is there any way to know if they really did the stage 1?

I know I have a lot of questions and I have asked many people but no one I know has a Fuel-Pak.

Please help

Hi,

The first thing I would suggest is too check the bike for Intake vacuum leaks and exhaust leans.
An Intake will lean out the mixture and cause overheating, hot run, surging and so on.
The Exhaust leaks can draw air into the exhaust system and cause more popping and backfires.

All in all, it's sounds quite lean, and the stage one download does still run the engine too lean.

The V&H Fuelpak does have programs set to work with the stage one download, i do feel it will help the bike to run better, but still check to make sure you do not have the other issues first.

The price seems good, but did you check with Eastern performance? they have some of the best prices on it, and yes, they are on e-bay.