Vance & Hines Fuelpak Talk.

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by 06 flstfise

I have a 06 fatboy with a fat cat exhaust and se intake. I was running a pc III usb when it decided to holding the map. Took it in to the dealer to see about refund, replacement told that pc are only warantied for one year (had mine just over a year figures). Planning on doing some more engine work so i was not to thrilled about going back to a product that has already failed me. A friend had an extra fuel pak laying around not being used, so took it to the dealer to install (already at that point paid max for dyno time cause of the pc failure wasnt figured out right away). They dyno tuned it. I feel that it runs just as good with the fuel pak as it did with the pc III usb. Only wish there was a computer hook up. Doesnt have all the bells and whistles that the pc has but for the price and ease of use great product. V&H are good to work with as well, atleast compared to dyno jet.

Hi.

The Fuelpak works just fine, as long as there is a program for it, and you have the right computer program in the ECM.
If you go and do major changes, I think you will find the Fuelpak may not be able to run the engine.
If you were to do a Harley kit (Like the 103 or 95) as long as you have there computer program installed, the fuelpak can handle the engine, it's when you go to the big time engines that the issues come into playing.

At that point, it is best to get the SERT, and have it dyno tuned in.

[Hardcoretexan]

Hey just got my propipe installed and I like it a lot. Not as deep as my old pipes but it sounds good and good performance, I get a little spit or sputter every once in a while but nothing too bad. Will ride a little more to see if it straightens out.

GC
05/FXDWG

[Ultra RB]

Originally Posted by artillerybuff

Yes, all detailed in my previous post. '08 Ultra with SE Stage I A/C, older discontinued pre-EPA SE Mufflers #64903-99, V&H Fuelpak, H-D Oil Cooler. Bike sounds great, zero popping, very smooth. I had V&H mufflers on my last bike and for me were way too loud, even with quiet baffles. Factory '08 Mufflers were so quiet I could not tell if the bike was running or not. Besides the sickly sound, the heat was unbearable! The SE mufflers I am using are right about inbetween and for me are perfect, but I am 50 and want to be able to hear the bike when it is running, and hear my wife/stereo on the intercom. What I am using is perfect and easy to tune. I will be selling the extra set on ebay next week due to the fact that I accidently won two auctions for them. Supposed to be like new 10 out of 10 like the ones I am running with only 500 miles on them.

My desire was to get some quality sound but not end up loud like on my last bike, get the heat out of the engine (live & ride in extreme desert heat), and increase performance just a bit with NO POPPING. All other aftermarket muffs are just way too loud for me, and I had heard them all.

Last weekend we made a quick 600 mile round trip ride over to Phoenix Arizona & back and the bike runs perfect. Most of the trip was with the cruise set at 80 mph on Intersate 10, and double up with overnight stuff & plenty of water packed we averaged just over 40 mpg.

Now have enough miles (1,000) to drop all lube and refill with Amsoil. Just like on my '07 Dyna, I am expecting another drop in operating temperature and slightly better mileage after the change out.

Cheers~ AV

Wondering if you have listed these pipes yet?

Thanks,

[DAKSY]

Originally Posted by Jeffytune

Hi.

Yes, that was a wrong instruction. From what I have learned, mode 23 is the fuel cut off for decell.
I have seen V&H advise a change from 16 to 15, I do not know why they would have said to go to 17, but a change to 15 may be worth a shot.

As to the stumble, I would bet it is because the mode 19 throttle calibration is off.
When ever you change any mode, you need to redo mode 19.

Hey, Jeffytune...
You nailed it, man...I reset position 23 from 17 to 15 & she's runnin GREAT!
Now talk to me about position 19...I don't have the "stumble" any more, but if I hafta reset 19, which way? Up or down? How many digits?
I'll be honest with ya, I did'nt even look to see what 19 was set at...I shoulda noticed, cuz I hadda pass it to get to 23, but I was primarily interested in making the 23 change...

[kwb377]

Read through this thread the other night, and decided to order a FuelPak. Got it installed (map FP-0072...V&H ovals, Stage 1, SE a/c) and test rode...virtually eliminated my decel popping, and the engine seems much smoother at highway cruising speed.

The only issue that surfaced was about 30 minutes into the shakedown ride I had a couple of instances of it coughing through the intake at low throttle 1-2 and 2-3 shifts.

[FLazyBoy]

Hey Jeffy,

I have a 2008 Touring (Ultra Classic) and installed my Fuelpak yesterday. I'm running the V&H Oval slip ons and the SE air cleaner. According to the V&H site, my program should be FP-1717. My software version is 13.

I love the sound of the new slip ons (my bike doesn't sound like a huge sewing machine now), but I do notice some popping when coasting. Also I can see some bluing of the front pipe between the heat shields around the rider floorboards (but it could be that I never noticed it before).

Anyhow, I was reading about this mysterious Mode 19 throttle recal. I didn't see anything in the instructions about it. My bike has the fly-by-wire throttle -- just wondering if this would help.

Thanks,
FLazyBoy/dagsportster

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by DAKSY

Hey, Jeffytune...
You nailed it, man...I reset position 23 from 17 to 15 & she's runnin GREAT!
Now talk to me about position 19...I don't have the "stumble" any more, but if I hafta reset 19, which way? Up or down? How many digits?
I'll be honest with ya, I did'nt even look to see what 19 was set at...I shoulda noticed, cuz I hadda pass it to get to 23, but I was primarily interested in making the 23 change...

Anytime you change any cell, you need to redo cell 19, (The throttle snap) (This does not apply to 2008 tour bikes with electric throttle) it is needed to get the unit synchronized with the ECM.

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by FLazyBoy

Hey Jeffy,

I have a 2008 Touring (Ultra Classic) and installed my Fuelpak yesterday. I'm running the V&H Oval slip ons and the SE air cleaner. According to the V&H site, my program should be FP-1717. My software version is 13.

I love the sound of the new slip ons (my bike doesn't sound like a huge sewing machine now), but I do notice some popping when coasting. Also I can see some bluing of the front pipe between the heat shields around the rider floorboards (but it could be that I never noticed it before).

Anyhow, I was reading about this mysterious Mode 19 throttle recal. I didn't see anything in the instructions about it. My bike has the fly-by-wire throttle -- just wondering if this would help.

Thanks,
FLazyBoy/dagsportster

Version 13 is a completely different animal, cell is not needed to calibrate the unit, and the electric throttle is already sync'd.

As to the popping, you will need to call Vance and Hines for guidance here, i have no experience with thew version 13, other then to know the cells are not the same and the version 12.

[Danocanada]

Jeffytune, you seem to be the master. I have an issue maybe you could help me with. It seems I have to constantly recalibrate my older version 11 fuel pak. After calibrating and going to step 21 sometimes I get -- at what should be 99%. It seems that when I do get it calibrated correctly after running for a while and stopping the engine and after restarting the bike will run like crap and require me to recalibrate. Have there been any issues with the older fuelpaks(this is not an A version) losing there calibration? I'm running an 04 Dyna with a K&N 3909 and V&H HS Slip-ons..thanks for any input, as you can imagine I'm tired of having to stop and pull the seat off to recalibrate.

[kwb377]

Rode yesterday and got more coughing/spitting. It happens during up shifting/down shifting (or cruising at low rpm) when rolling the throttle open from the closed position. Any ideas JT?

Thanks!

[Danocanada]

KW, call Adam at Vance&Hines Fuel Pak, I had the same issue and he had me lower one value. Don't email, you'll get better and faster service by talking to him. (he's the only one who ever answers the phone)

"(562) 921-0071 . Fuelpak is committed to providing you with the highest level of product support, when you send us an email or call our sales/technical line, a representative will contact you back within 24 hours, or the next business day. Fuelpak business hours are Monday-Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. PST."

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by kwb377

Rode yesterday and got more coughing/spitting. It happens during up shifting/down shifting (or cruising at low rpm) when rolling the throttle open from the closed position. Any ideas JT?

Thanks!

Yes, you may need to call Adam, but before you do, I would try reloading cell 19.
That is the throttle snap, try counting 1- one thousand to full open, and then 1-one thousand to full closed in as smooth a motion as you can do, then go to cell 21 and roll on the throttle, the numbers should start at 00 and move smoothly to 99.
It is very critical that it be sync'd to the ECM, and the throttle.

[DAKSY]

Originally Posted by Jeffytune

Yes, you may need to call Adam, but before you do, I would try reloading cell 19.
That is the throttle snap, try counting 1- one thousand to full open, and then 1-one thousand to full closed in as smooth a motion as you can do, then go to cell 21 and roll on the throttle, the numbers should start at 00 and move smoothly to 99.
It is very critical that it be sync'd to the ECM, and the throttle.

Hey, Jeffytune...
Can you elaborate on "reloading cell 19"? Like how does one reload cell 19? Being a computer-illidiot, I think I need a tad more info...TIA!

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by DAKSY

Hey, Jeffytune...
Can you elaborate on "reloading cell 19"? Like how does one reload cell 19? Being a computer-illidiot, I think I need a tad more info...TIA!

Well.....it's kinda easy.
1) Take the cover off the fuelpak.
2) Turn the key on, then the run/stop switch to "run".
3) You will be at cell 1, push the top button untill you get to cell 19, then you open and close the throttle like I said before.
4) Push the top button until you read cell 21, then open and close the throttle again to read the number change from 00 to 99 and back to 00.
5) Turn the run/stop switch to "stop" and then turn the bike off and put the cover back on.

Then go for a ride to see how it runs.

[Danocanada]

Originally Posted by Danocanada

Jeffytune, you seem to be the master. I have an issue maybe you could help me with. It seems I have to constantly recalibrate my older version 11 fuel pak. After calibrating and going to step 21 sometimes I get -- at what should be 99%. It seems that when I do get it calibrated correctly after running for a while and stopping the engine and after restarting the bike will run like crap and require me to recalibrate. Have there been any issues with the older fuelpaks(this is not an A version) losing there calibration? I'm running an 04 Dyna with a K&N 3909 and V&H HS Slip-ons..thanks for any input, as you can imagine I'm tired of having to stop and pull the seat off to recalibrate.

Jeffytune if you missed this please read and help if possible..thanks!