Vance & Hines Fuelpak Talk.

[Jeffytune]

Ok, That helps.

Alright, I think the first thing to do is make sure it is not an Issue with the Fuelpak itself, being it is only on the rear and not the front, a couple things come to mind.
1) If you have WD-40, put on the red tube, and wile it is Idling, spray it on were the Intake meets the head, and them watch to see if smoke comes out the Exhaust pipe.
If it does, what you have is an Intake seal leaking, and needs to be replaced. (Being a 2007, it should be under warranty)
2) If spraying around the intake seal does not change the way it Idles or if it does not smoke, take an extension(a long 1/4 or 3/8) but the longest one you have, and with the engine Idling, place on end on the front Injector, and the other end on your ear, listen for a steady loud "Ticking" noise, then try it on the rear one, it SHOULD sound the same.
If you do not hear a tick sound from the rear, or it sound very different, then turn off the engine, and unplug the Fuelpak, and plug the ecm back to just the bike(No Fuelpak) then restart the bike, and test again.
If they now sound the same, look closely at the Pin for the fuelpaks wire harness connectors.
All the pins should be at the same height, and not bent.
If there all good, then you need to talk with Vance and Hines.
If it still sounds different, then you have to look again at the connector pins, this time for the ECM, again if there all strait and the same height, you need to take the bike to the dealer, either the wire broke, the Injector failed, or the ecm is not signaling the Injector to open.

Just let me know if I can assist further.

[hoosierdaddy]

What really gets me about this , I contacted V&H 2 days ago and I haven't heard a thing back . I've read several comments from people that state the rear cylinder is mapped at zero while at idle so if this is true why can't V&H just tell you which mode to adjust an be done with it . Rant over

[Jeffytune]

Have you had a chance to try the tests I suggested?

[hoosierdaddy]

Yes , I did it last night and everything seems to be fine .

[xandvphyle]

weather finally permitted some riding and I got about 300 miles on my bike, "phred" (phat red). The kurakyn oil temp indicated 208* at the hottest in an ambient of 72. Gas mileage down a little ( 5mpg or so) but it runs sooo consistently, who cares. I am going to replace the plugs because there is some discoloration and I really don't know what I started with since I had never checked them. I put some 10% ethanol in the other day and seemed to do OK and in fact got a little better gas mileage. I have not been particulalry careful to always put the highest octane in the bike but always use 89 as the minimum.

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy

Yes , I did it last night and everything seems to be fine .

So it ran the same with or without the fuelpak on?

I think you need to have the dealer diagnose the Issue with the Fuel system, sounds like a possible bad Injector.

[hoosierdaddy]

The fuel pack was working just fine . What I have learned are the limitations of the fuel pack . I'm not going to bash the fuel pack but had I known back when I bought it what I know now I would have gone another direction . The heat problem I originally posted about I have found is common on a lot of 07 08 Harley's and Harley says the condition is acceptable . The real cause is the lean 14.7:1 afr the bikes are run at in closed loop to meet epa standards and I don't find it acceptable so I'm going to try something different .

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy

The fuel pack was working just fine . What I have learned are the limitations of the fuel pack . I'm not going to bash the fuel pack but had I known back when I bought it what I know now I would have gone another direction . The heat problem I originally posted about I have found is common on a lot of 07 08 Harley's and Harley says the condition is acceptable . The real cause is the lean 14.7:1 afr the bikes are run at in closed loop to meet epa standards and I don't find it acceptable so I'm going to try something different .

Ok, I'll I can say is that my 2007 does not run that hot at all.

I would suggest using a SERT.

[xandvphyle]

Ok, I'll I can say is that my 2007 does not run that hot at all.

As i posted above, the temp on my bike has gone way down. I had an Excelsior Henderson # 17...something. Now that bike was HOT. Running Temps on it were hi 200's and above.

I suppose I could have gotten the cams, SERT, etc etc. but it seems to me, the dealer's technicians either wouldn't acknowledge or turned a blind eye to the situation.

The fuelpak did what i wanted for the bike and save a bunch of money to correct that for me. thanks to Jeff an othres here for their patient directions.

[JPBlueDragon]

For the life of me, I can't understand those who put a high flow performance exhaust on a bike with the stock choked air intake. That's like a marathoner getting in great shape and then running the race with a clothespin on his nose and a rag in his mouth.

I wouldn't think Vance & Hines would even develop configurations for stock air filters.

[hoosierdaddy]

Originally Posted by JPBlueDragon

For the life of me, I can't understand those who put a high flow performance exhaust on a bike with the stock choked air intake. That's like a marathoner getting in great shape and then running the race with a clothespin on his nose and a rag in his mouth.

I wouldn't think Vance & Hines would even develop configurations for stock air filters.

Did I miss something ?

[xandvphyle]

Originally Posted by hoosierdaddy

Did I miss something ?

kinda confused me, too

[JPBlueDragon]

Krap, I was paging back and forth between two forums and put that post on the wrong one. Carry on.

Since the Fuelpak, I hadn't carried the wife. We went to a winery and she loaded my saddlebags with bottles. The bike never feels underpowered anymore. I can stay in a gear higher than I should even with a passenger and full saddlebags. Nice.

[Jeffytune]

Originally Posted by JPBlueDragon

Krap, I was paging back and forth between two forums and put that post on the wrong one. Carry on.

Since the Fuelpak, I hadn't carried the wife. We went to a winery and she loaded my saddlebags with bottles. The bike never feels underpowered anymore. I can stay in a gear higher than I should even with a passenger and full saddlebags. Nice.

I try to use the "Quote" button so everyone can see what I am responding too.

It kinda helps keep everyone on the same page as it were.

[Kauai_Jim]

After reading this thread from front to back, I went out and got the FuelPak for my 08 ultra and did the HD high flow filter with the stock pipes. I have a set of hooker turndown true duals but when I got them, the heat shields were dinged up so While I'm waiting for replacements I wanted to play with the stock pipes. It seems to work pretty well except the fly by wire throttle seems like there's a lot of slop in the beginning. I tried to do the throttle calibration suggested back in the thread for #19 to no avail. Is there a different throttle cal for the fly by wire throttles?
Any help appreciated
Aloha!