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09-04-2010, 01:20 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: nc
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TTS Mastertune??????
hello all, I hope someone can help..I have a 2008 streetglide. I have put a Kuryakyn cam (TC-2D) ,true dual exhaust with kuryakyn crusher mufflers and the TTS mastertune. I have programmed it with the map kuryakyn sent..it runs awesome wide open..but when I try to start off in normal riding, it is very weak till about 1500 RPM. Its almost like taking off in 2nd gear...sluggish until it get the rpms up...anyone know about the fine tuning of the TTS and what to look for..I have also done the data master and v-tune with no change...thanks in advance
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09-04-2010, 01:28 PM
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You need to get it tuned on a dyno by a qualified tuner.
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2011 Road glide Ultra 103
V&H Power Duals
Rush 2" Slip on's
SE A/C
SE 204's
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09-04-2010, 01:36 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: pa
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i would start out with the tw205 map in the tts library and do a tune with that map for starters do a vtune then see what happens
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2009 ultra
hillside 107
hillside stage 4 heads with grooves
woods 400-6 cams
woods directional lifters
H.P.I. 54 MM 2 piece T.B. with 1.800 intake runners with S.E. 5.3 injectors
s&s p rods
billet rocker supports, .030 offset
fulsac x pipe
Reinhart slipons
tts Tuner
doherty p/p intake modified for hillside big green air filter
S.E. compensator
30 tooth pulley
big sky dual oil cooler fans
HTCS AW/SW USN RET,
!20hp /120 Trq
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09-04-2010, 01:38 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: CALIFORNIA
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+ 1 "You need to get it tuned on a dyno by a qualified tuner."
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09-04-2010, 01:41 PM
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Seasoned Rider
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JOHNNYWISHBONE
+ 1 "You need to get it tuned on a dyno by a qualified tuner."
generic map = adjective
1 characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific : chèvre is a generic term for all goat's milk cheese. See note at universal .
• (of goods, esp. medicinal drugs) having no brand name; not protected by a registered trademark : generic aspirin.
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That's what I love about this forum! Informative as well as educational!
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09-04-2010, 02:09 PM
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Premium octane member
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Could be the cam too...50 intake close on a stock bike with true duals...
A good tune might help the situation, but may not cure it.
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09-05-2010, 10:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TXCHOP
Could be the cam too...50 intake close on a stock bike with true duals...
A good tune might help the situation, but may not cure it.
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I agree with TXCHOP 100%. Went through a similar situation with a 56 Intake close cam that was dead on the bottom end. Installed a 42 close cam, and wow what a difference in bottom end!
Have heard the TC-2s like at least 10.5:1 compression for any build.
IMO, the TC-2G was the wrong choice for just a cam swap........
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Axtell Pro Street 107"
Axtell Stage II Heads
SE Breather/Zippers Max-Flow
Rinehart True Duals
TTS Mastertune
'08 Brembo Conversion
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09-06-2010, 08:14 AM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2010
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tts mastertune
That really stinks...when you call and talk to people, and that is the cam they reccommend...and now its not that fun to ride at normal riding...getting on it a little, is a blast....very quick, and will light the back tire sweet.......However, after reading a lot in this forum, the andrews 21 or 26 seems to be what I need to be changing to. Thanks for the replies guys...
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09-07-2010, 07:49 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Tts mastertune adjustments
If anyone that has expierience with the tts mastertune could help me I would very much appreciate it.. I installed it on my 08 streetglide with air cleaner,cams, and pipes..I put it on a dyno today , but the guy knows nothing about the mastertune..He knows and sells the power commander V. The sniffer on the dyno showed the front cylinder to be very very rich as soon as you touch the throttle. It stumbles and hesitates till you get the rpms up around 1500-1800. The sniffer only goes down to 10 and it went to 10 very quick. So it may even be richer than it showed. The back cylinder was more on the lean side....And at the end of the pull the two cylinders went seperate ways..Front rich and back lean..Even with this a little out of allignment it made 85 hp and 87 ft lbs. tq. I have tried to understand the manual but cant seem to get it..I would like to know which table to alter to lean the front cylinder at slight throttle...and would really like to discuss this on the phone if at all possible..I was sent word from Mike Rowland to V-tune it and concentrate on the problem areas...Thats hard to do when it is at slight throttle...There is no other dyno around me.(Wilkesboro,N.C.) Can anyone help??? Thanks,. Kirk 336-262-3760
2008 streetglide
Doherty air cleaner
Crusher true dual exhaust
Wild things TC-2D cams
TTS Mastertune
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09-07-2010, 08:16 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: nc
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TTS Mastertune adjustments
If anyone that has expierience with the tts mastertune could help me I would very much appreciate it.. I installed it on my 08 streetglide with air cleaner,cams, and pipes..I put it on a dyno today , but the guy knows nothing about the mastertune..He knows and sells the power commander V. The sniffer on the dyno showed the front cylinder to be very very rich as soon as you touch the throttle. It stumbles and hesitates till you get the rpms up around 1500-1800. The sniffer only goes down to 10 and it went to 10 very quick. So it may even be richer than it showed. The back cylinder was more on the lean side....And at the end of the pull the two cylinders went seperate ways..Front rich and back lean..Even with this a little out of allignment it made 85 hp and 87 ft lbs. tq. I have tried to understand the manual but cant seem to get it..I would like to know which table to alter to lean the front cylinder at slight throttle...and would really like to discuss this on the phone if at all possible..I was sent word from Mike Rowland to V-tune it and concentrate on the problem areas...Thats hard to do when it is at slight throttle...There is no other dyno around me.(Wilkesboro,N.C.) Can anyone help??? Thanks,. Kirk 336-262-3760
2008 streetglide
Doherty air cleaner
Crusher true dual exhaust
Wild things TC-2D cams
TTS Mastertune
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09-07-2010, 08:22 PM
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Moneygreen
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Trenton,N.J.
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Kirk do yourself a favor ,& find a shop that can tune using the TTS.It's worth it.The bike will be happier & so will you!!!
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There is no replacement for displacement!!!!
Craig G.
2010 Ultra Classic Hot Rod Built & Tuned by JD's
BB & Baisley Hybrid Heads with man/Comp releases
Axtell Pistons & Cylinders set with high comp,Big CCP
Darkhorse Stroker Crank,balanced,plugged & welded
Woods A/C kit & Lifters
T-Man gear crank set
High Flow HPI Inj & BB TBW Throttle body
D&D Boarzilla (perforated baffle)
Lenale cooling fan
Jagg 10 row oil cooler
K&P engineering oil filter
To much more to list!!!!!!
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09-07-2010, 08:28 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Anyone know how to locate a tts shop? I cant even find any contact info on tts website
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09-07-2010, 08:35 PM
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Moneygreen
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by streetglidekirk
Anyone know how to locate a tts shop? I cant even find any contact info on tts website
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If the guys here can't give you advice,call Doc,HDMD tuning center.You can look him up on yahoo.He can tell you if has trained anyone in your area on the TTS!!!
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There is no replacement for displacement!!!!
Craig G.
2010 Ultra Classic Hot Rod Built & Tuned by JD's
BB & Baisley Hybrid Heads with man/Comp releases
Axtell Pistons & Cylinders set with high comp,Big CCP
Darkhorse Stroker Crank,balanced,plugged & welded
Woods A/C kit & Lifters
T-Man gear crank set
High Flow HPI Inj & BB TBW Throttle body
D&D Boarzilla (perforated baffle)
Lenale cooling fan
Jagg 10 row oil cooler
K&P engineering oil filter
To much more to list!!!!!!
Last edited by arealinvestor; 09-07-2010 at 08:38 PM.
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09-07-2010, 08:43 PM
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As Craig already stated,find you a tuner before you waste that engine...Doc can steer you in the direction of someone near you that "gets it"..TTS that is.
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2011 Road glide Ultra 103
V&H Power Duals
Rush 2" Slip on's
SE A/C
SE 204's
Tune by Stroker
John 3:16
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09-07-2010, 08:53 PM
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IronButt
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: nc
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I was about to just let the guy do the power commander V and sell the tts , but I have heard the tts is the best thing out right now...
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