Critique my dyno tune

[BlueBobber]

Need some help with my dyno tune. I don't like the dip and I think the fuel is a tad rich. Does anyone now of a tuner in the Hudson Valley NY area?

[aka_matt]

A/F looks dead on 13.0-13.5, not bad... dip looks like exhaust, whats the build?? need some info... lloyd may be good with victories, but not that good with HD's... bet he didn't touch the timing... as for other tuners, how about george at moroneys? altho not close, my friend had great results with ken at black hills, in rockaway, nj...
where u from? i'm near middletown

[strokerjlk]

13 runs in 12 mins!
looks like a wot tune and nothing else JMO.
if those are V&H shotguns then thats your dip.
I have HEARD that Lloyd is a good tuner so not sure why the 13 runs in 12 mins. You probably are rich in the dip area if he tried to tune it out. what is the build?

[TXCHOP]

Looks like a classic Big shots staggered tq curve. Change the pipe and retune. How does it feel?

Man, lived in Middletown for 5 years and never knew anything about Lloyd.
Matt, you ever have any luck with Moronies? I never have on anything.

[aka_matt]

i never heard of lloyd either til the guys at o'tooles recommended him... after what he did to my friends bike, they don't recommend him anymore... i always deal with o'tooles, great guys there... wheres "downstate"? i'd love to see/hear ur bike in person...

[TXCHOP]

I live in the outskirts Middletown, kinda just past the college. I work and keep my bike in Rockland though. We can meet up for sure, bike coming apart for some routine maintenance in a couple weeks though. Yeah, never hear of Lloys either. I still happily ride my bike to Dave at Jd's as i dont feel you can get a better tune in this part of the county than Dave will.

[Hillside]

From what we have heard, Moronies IS NOT, where you want to go for a tune.
Scott

[BlueBobber]

Sorry didn't give any build info.

-Stock 96" w/ 204 cams
-BSS with stock baffles (quiet baffles choked it down 5 in HP and torque)
-Stage I aircleaner

The only other change is Andrews 30 tooth pulley which makes the gear ratios better. Bike runs very well just thought it would be better with a smoother torque curve. Llyod said he looked into the timing but it didn't seem to affect it.

I'm from the outskirts of Middletown actually Howells.

[TXCHOP]

Yup, looks like a classic example of that exhaust system. They sound soooooo nice, but put the tq curve where its not intended.

With that cam only build, your numbers arent bad at all. A good 2 into 1 pipe would smooth it right out with a new tune of course. That comes as a compromise of looks and sound though. If it feels good, run it, if not look into a pipe...

[BlueBobber]

Would a different exhaust baffle help. I like the looks of the pipes and yes it does run way better than stock and with the cams its loud. Would a baffle like a BCT change anything? Why are these pipes doing this to the torque curve?

[aharp]

Exhaust systems are about 3 things when people buy them:

Looks
Sound
Performance

I tell people you can have two out of three so choose wisely

[strokerjlk]

What tuning device are ya using?
I tuned A stage I 88 ci last week with sampson shorties much like your BSS ( no baffles) I was able to tune a lot of the dip out with A TTS .
The timing makes all the diff in the world with that cam.
what you have at WOT for peak numbers is good so I would think the majority of time was spent there. I think some more of the dip could be tuned out with timing and it will sound backwards but running leaner from 2800-3800 rpm. at 100%
If it feels good at cruise then as Tx chop said ride it.
because if your map is leaner in the cruise area it just may have more tq.( at 2800-3800 rpm 40-60%) than showed at 100% or wot. JMO

[BlueBobber]

Running a PCIII. He made individual maps for each cylinder.

[Hillside]

Originally Posted by aharp

Exhaust systems are about 3 things when people buy them:

Looks
Sound
Performance

I tell people you can have two out of three so choose wisely

I agree.
And the very first thing folks change, good, bad, or otherwise.
Scott

['05Train]

Go see Dave @ JD's in Bethlehem, PA.

Best there is 'round these parts.